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Why would your show actually have to make money? It just needs to cost less than sending your entire corps to the East for a DCA show; since someone said it costs ~$100k to move 'gades East for a show, I'd think you could host a show much cheaper than that.

Yeah, forgot to insert a smiley face. :) But regardless of this rule change, a sanctioned show should be a goal anyway, I'd think.

WHAT!!!? Too much to complain about right now before action is taken. C'mon!

Really? Has this gone straight to the establishment or just to the people on DCP?

If what Chris Nalls posted as was the current rule, then the change affects Music City and Crusaders and any corps that finishes in the 11-14 spots that have 4 DCA shows. Not just Renegades. That fact is more of a concern than Renegades vote. It makes the total number of voters much less. I think that's part of the reason DCI has become more of a circuit where all the corps look and sound the same; only the top corps vote on the direction of the circuit.

That's a point. I think it affects more than that.

Can't you have a DCA show? South, midwest and Texas have done it.

Dude, it already says "North American corps", so an international corps can't be a member anyway.

A different way to look at it, but this actually that kind of encourages the western corps to create a DCA West region. Hmm, that would be cool!

The way that's written, seems like Renegades would still be a voting member if you had a DCA show in Cali. Don't you guys just about have that anyway? If you did that, you'd even get a share point by hosting a show; it's something.

DCA is great in it's variety of styles when it comes to music and visual. That includes uniforms. DCA corps will do well to keep that. DCI seems to be melding all their corps into the same look and sound. The only difference in those corps is getting to be just their degree of perfection.

Entertainment! Exactly!! Entertaining the audience, even more precise. Yes!!! GE includes entertainment; least it's supposed to. :) Gotta judge it that way too. Some classical shows are entertaining '05 Bucs, awesome, hands-down. '06 not as much; Empire had better GE. Bucs, the last two years, great shows and music, but not 2nd or 3rd. But those are just opinions.

:) Could write that for just about any thread ever posted. ^0^

I've heard even if you order a full line of Bb horns from Dynasty that too is made to order.

Hmm, logic would dictate that hurricanes are not the norm in Rochester NY. BVP shows on their website that all prelims corps got taped except CV and later. Can't speak for the quality, but that weather was horrendous. If the quality is a little down, I'd understand. I don't usually get that mad at weather, but I don't expect the hurricane to be there again in 2007.

Rank and rate. Or is it rate and rank. Either way, they're supposed to do both. (2 pt drop? Yet move up a placement. Wow. Sick.)

Whoops! You should start talking about the new proposals before they go to DCA. 'course ya gotta think 'em up first! That'd be a whole new thread.

Yup, yup. Used to be that show sponsors decided show line-ups, but DCI stepped in hard a few years ago. All DCA corps on at 5pm when the most obvious time for them to perform is at the end of the show. There's that big dead time between the last DCI corps and scores; perfect for your local DCA in exhibition. Plus that would also give the working members time to get to the show. Allows for a much better performance without all those holes due to traffic!

Ouch. Ah yeah, I remember now, if a non-profit has any hope of getting gubment grant money then they need to educate youth somehow. Simply being an adult group that plays music and competes won't get you anywhere near grant money. So you're right, never mind, DCA corps can indeed be non-youth oriented.

I'm not an M.D. but I thought I could control my diaphragm? I know I can force myself to breathe voluntarily, but what am I using when I do that, if it's not the diaphragm? What is it called? I always thought it was called the diaphragm.

DCA also serves youth don't they? There's a lot of youth involved in DCA, both marching and viewing. Plus don't corps have to have something in regard to education in their charter to get a 501c3? I mean I don't think they'd allow Not for Profit status for a group of adults that simply want to get together to play instruments on weekends and party.

Don't rules proposals get submitted first, like around now, then in the Jan time-frame the rules meeting happens? That's what I think has happened before.

Exactly!!! DCI judges don't use the sheets properly; they come from a high execution paradigm. DCA is of the entertainment paradigm. (Some would actually say DCA judges don't use their sheets properly either, in that not enough consideration is being given towards entertainment as it should be. That word is the foundation of DCA; right there in the offical written philosophy of DCA I believe.) I think if a DCA corps is being judged by DCI judges, just leave it on the sheets they are familiar with, especially if there's only one DCA corps at that DCI show. Actually if that's the case, just be judged exhibition and don't publish the score; don't even give a score for that matter.

The featured artists are the junior corps. Doesn't matter that there is at least 15 minutes of down time after the last DCI corps performs which would be a perfect fit for a DCA corps. That is, if there's just one DCA corps performing; lots of southern DCI shows are like that.

Sound intensity is basically power per area, which could be thought of as volume I suppose. And someone said it, doubling the sound intensity basically raises the dB by 3. But also remember that the intensity changes by the distance squared. Doing some calcs, the loudest corps, CV, had a 104dB rating. That equates to an intensity of 0.0251 Watts/square meter. Bucs at 102 dB has an intensity of 0.01585 W/m^2. Ratio those two gives CV as 1.58 x more intensity than Bucs. The inverse square relationship says that you can get that difference in intensity by being a distance of 1.26 times further away. I1/I2 = (r2^2)/(r1^2) Let's assume CV was 60 yards away from the db meter. If they backed up 15.6 yards they would have the same dB reading as Bucs. Or if Bucs were 15.6 yds closer they'd have a 104 dB reading. I don't know where each corps earned their high dB reading, but if one corps was further away then you have to consider the inverse square law to really know who's hornline is louder. But then again, if you're going to be loud, the loudest the audience will hear you is if you are standing closest to them. So park your loud sound right there in the pit. Btw, G bugles and Bb's don't necessarily have different size bores in general. Have to check manufacturers. e.g. Kanstul makes basically the same bore for trumpet as they do sops. Last thing, get your calipers out, all G bugles and anykey brass are cylindrical from the mouthpeice to the valves. None have any conical shape until after the valves. The only one that stays cylindrical for a length after the valves are trumpets. All the other voices expand conically right after the valves. So that conical vs. cylindrical would be a good argument if it were true. What is true is that the natural harmonics of a matched key set of horns will all have nodes that line up. Unmatched not nearly as much. So an all G line can theoretically be inherently louder because of the natural constructive interference provided by these harmonics lining up.