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well, I saw many posts about this subject in the forum and decided to check it out for myself...

I checked the scores from today (some from yesterday) and compared them to what happened

exactly one year ago on this date (7/3/09).

Note...This is not a 100% guarenteed accurate scientific experiment....just some stats for fun.

Here are the Corps that are either 1+ point above or 1+ point below where they were on 7/2 or 7/3...2008.

Gains: :thumbup:

1. Carolina Crown 79.1 vs 85.1 (+6.0)

2. Blue Stars 71.3 vs 76.4 (+5.1)

3. Blue Knights 71.8 vs 76.2 (+4.4)

4. Blue Coats 76.5 vs 80.2 (+3.7)

5. Troopers 69.8 vs 73.1 (+3.3)

6. Cadets 81.2 vs 82.8 (+1.6)

7. Madison Scouts 71.6 vs 72.8 (+1.2)

Loses: :thumbdown:

1. Cavaliers 81.3 vs 79.5 (-1.8)

2. Glassmen 73.8 vs 72.2 (-1.6)

3. Phantom 81.5 vs 80.0 (-1.5)

And for those of you who are interested...

Vanguard 81.4 vs 81.7 (+.3)

Colts 73.9 vs 74.2 (+.3)

Blue Devils 83.7 vs 83.9 (+.2)

Boston Crusaders 77.3 vs 76.5 (-.8)

Now what does this all mean?...well its open to interpretation....like most subjects on this forum.

that is all....

Cali.

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Interesting post...As far as I know, west coast corps' have always been inflated early on in the season, and lately the east coast scores have catapulted. Maybe DCI is trying to counter-balance the trend? DCI SW should be interesting, though all of the corps will be competing between Dallas and Houston a couple of days before hand. Interesting season so far...

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Scores are subjective...but also make it all so interesting. These scores just leave me wondering what they will be like at Finals. Will it be like Pi...a continuos stream of decimal places (because the top three corps all hit 99.####) all to see who gets the gold in Indy?

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well, I saw many posts about this subject in the forum and decided to check it out for myself...

I checked the scores from today (some from yesterday) and compared them to what happened

exactly one year ago on this date (7/3/09).

Note...This is not a 100% guarenteed accurate scientific experiment....just some stats for fun.

Here are the Corps that are either 1+ point above or 1+ point below where they were on 7/2 or 7/3...2008.

Gains: :thumbup:

1. Carolina Crown 79.1 vs 85.1 (+6.0)

2. Blue Stars 71.3 vs 76.4 (+5.1)

3. Blue Knights 71.8 vs 76.2 (+4.4)

4. Blue Coats 76.5 vs 80.2 (+3.7)

5. Troopers 69.8 vs 73.1 (+3.3)

6. Cadets 81.2 vs 82.8 (+1.6)

7. Madison Scouts 71.6 vs 72.8 (+1.2)

Loses: :thumbdown:

1. Cavaliers 81.3 vs 79.5 (-1.8)

2. Glassmen 73.8 vs 72.2 (-1.6)

3. Phantom 81.5 vs 80.0 (-1.5)

And for those of you who are interested...

Vanguard 81.4 vs 81.7 (+.3)

Colts 73.9 vs 74.2 (+.3)

Blue Devils 83.7 vs 83.9 (+.2)

Boston Crusaders 77.3 vs 76.5 (-.8)

Now what does this all mean?...well its open to interpretation....like most subjects on this forum.

that is all....

Cali.

Pioneer - 63.7 -> 66.5 = +2.8

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Here's some historical reference to scores on this date

1986

Thursday July 3 Elmwood Park IL DCM Cavaliers 81.700

Thursday July 3 Racine WI DCM Phantom Regiment 81.000

1987

Friday July 3 Decatur GA DCE Garfield Cadets 81.600

Friday July 3 La Crosse WI DCM Madison Scouts 81.700

Friday July 3 Racine WI DCM Cavaliers 83.500

Friday July 3 Rockford IL DCM Phantom Regiment 86.300

Friday July 3 San Diego CA DCW Santa Clara Vanguard 81.700

1988

Sunday July 3 Costa Mesa CA DCW Blue Devils 81.000

1989

Monday July 3 Racine WI DCM Phantom Regiment 82.600

1990

Monday July 2 Hubbard OR DCW Santa Clara Vanguard 80.000

Tuesday July 3 Racine WI DCM Phantom Regiment 80.400

Skipping ahead

1996

Wednesday July 3 Bristol RI DCI Cadets of Bergen County 86.000

1997

Thursday July 3 Bristol RI DCI Atlantic Cadets of Bergen County 82.400

Thursday July 3 Mt. Prospect IL DCM Phantom Regiment 79.700

Friday July 4 San Diego CA DCI West Blue Devils 83.800

Skipping to 2002

Wednesday July 3 Summer Music Preview Bristol RI DCI Atlantic The Cadets 84.500

Wednesday July 3 Frankfort IL DCM Cavaliers 85.950

2003

Thursday July 3 Summer Music Review Bristol RI DCI Atlantic The Cadets 80.600

Thursday July 3 Vancouver WA DCI Pacific Blue Devils 83.30

Ummmmmmmmm NO, I don't see inflated scores when comparing historical snapshots from the same point in the season. What I do see is a new face on the leader board for July 3rd. Also note, some of the big scores for this date in years past didn't go on to win championships.

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I thought I read somewhere that in recent years, the first corps

to hit 85, has gone on to win DCI!

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It's just East Coast inflation ... We see it every year at this time. :thumbdown:

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Here's some historical reference to scores on this date

1986

Thursday July 3 Elmwood Park IL DCM Cavaliers 81.700

Thursday July 3 Racine WI DCM Phantom Regiment 81.000

1987

Friday July 3 Decatur GA DCE Garfield Cadets 81.600

Friday July 3 La Crosse WI DCM Madison Scouts 81.700

Friday July 3 Racine WI DCM Cavaliers 83.500

Friday July 3 Rockford IL DCM Phantom Regiment 86.300

Friday July 3 San Diego CA DCW Santa Clara Vanguard 81.700

1988

Sunday July 3 Costa Mesa CA DCW Blue Devils 81.000

1989

Monday July 3 Racine WI DCM Phantom Regiment 82.600

1990

Monday July 2 Hubbard OR DCW Santa Clara Vanguard 80.000

Tuesday July 3 Racine WI DCM Phantom Regiment 80.400

Skipping ahead

1996

Wednesday July 3 Bristol RI DCI Cadets of Bergen County 86.000

1997

Thursday July 3 Bristol RI DCI Atlantic Cadets of Bergen County 82.400

Thursday July 3 Mt. Prospect IL DCM Phantom Regiment 79.700

Friday July 4 San Diego CA DCI West Blue Devils 83.800

Skipping to 2002

Wednesday July 3 Summer Music Preview Bristol RI DCI Atlantic The Cadets 84.500

Wednesday July 3 Frankfort IL DCM Cavaliers 85.950

2003

Thursday July 3 Summer Music Review Bristol RI DCI Atlantic The Cadets 80.600

Thursday July 3 Vancouver WA DCI Pacific Blue Devils 83.30

Ummmmmmmmm NO, I don't see inflated scores when comparing historical snapshots from the same point in the season. What I do see is a new face on the leader board for July 3rd. Also note, some of the big scores for this date in years past didn't go on to win championships.

Not sure you can really go that far back to compare scores when then judging sheets are not the same.

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2008:

rnk corps	   low	  high	  diff	 rate	 r-sq
1  BDEVILS	 75.90	 83.70	 7.80	 0.74	 0.93
2  PHANTOM	 72.40	 81.50	 9.10	 0.67	 0.93
3  SCV		 74.00	 81.40	 7.40	 0.65	 0.92
4  CAVIES	  73.40	 81.30	 7.90	 0.64	 0.93
5  CADETS	  71.20	 81.20	 10.00	 0.83	 0.99
6  CROWN	   70.20	 79.10	 8.90	 0.71	 0.94
7  BAC		 67.10	 77.30	 10.20	 0.73	 0.88
8  BLUECTS	 68.80	 76.50	 7.70	 0.69	 0.94
9  COLTS	   64.50	 73.90	 9.40	 0.77	 0.98
10  GLASSMN	 63.00	 73.80	 10.80	 0.91	 0.98
11  PACREST	 71.70	 72.60	 0.90	 0.13	 0.43
12  BKNIGHT	 65.30	 71.80	 6.50	 0.65	 0.88
13  MADISON	 61.50	 71.60	 10.10	 0.65	 0.82
14  BLUSTRS	 62.50	 71.40	 8.90	 0.81	 0.88
15  ACADEMY	 68.90	 70.60	 1.70	 0.24	 0.66
16  XMEN		62.00	 72.30	 10.30	 0.83	 0.91
17  MANDRNS	 64.60	 70.00	 5.40	 0.75	 0.98
18  TROOPER	 57.90	 69.80	 11.90	 0.84	 0.90
19  SPIRIT	  62.40	 69.50	 7.10	 0.51	 0.52
20  PIONEER	 51.60	 63.70	 12.10	 0.96	 0.84
21  CASCADE	 0.00	 0.00	 0.00	 0.00	 0.00
22  SURF		0.00	 0.00	 0.00	 0.00	 0.00

2009:

rnk corps	   low	  high	  diff	 rate	 r-sq
1  CROWN	   73.10	 85.10	 12.00	 0.80	 0.97
2  BDEVILS	 76.10	 83.90	 7.80	 0.57	 0.98
3  CADETS	  74.60	 82.80	 8.20	 0.56	 0.97
4  SCV		 74.20	 81.70	 7.50	 0.64	 0.96
5  BLUECTS	 74.60	 80.20	 5.60	 0.57	 0.98
6  PHANTOM	 72.70	 80.00	 7.30	 0.47	 0.80
7  CAVIES	  75.10	 79.50	 4.40	 0.32	 0.80
8  BAC		 68.80	 76.50	 7.70	 0.57	 0.83
9  BLUSTRS	 66.20	 76.40	 10.20	 0.71	 0.78
10  BKNIGHT	 70.60	 76.20	 5.60	 0.51	 0.89
11  COLTS	   63.00	 74.20	 11.20	 0.77	 0.89
12  SPIRIT	  63.70	 73.20	 9.50	 0.71	 0.69
13  TROOPER	 65.50	 73.10	 7.60	 0.74	 0.99
14  MADISON	 63.70	 72.80	 9.10	 0.58	 0.91
15  GLASSMN	 66.10	 72.20	 6.10	 0.47	 0.81
16  ACADEMY	 66.00	 71.70	 5.70	 0.41	 0.93
17  XMEN		63.80	 70.70	 6.90	 0.90	 0.98
18  SURF		64.70	 67.80	 3.10	 1.07	 0.97
19  MANDRNS	 63.80	 67.40	 3.60	 0.26	 0.90
20  PACREST	 63.20	 67.10	 3.90	 0.25	 0.88
21  PIONEER	 59.00	 66.50	 7.50	 0.70	 0.96
22  CASCADE	 62.50	 62.50	 0.00	 0.00	 0.00

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Huh. I find it weird that The Cavaliers have the lowest difference among the top 17. :thumbdown:

Have they really only gained around 4.5 points in the last, what, 2 weeks? Compared to 12 pt difference with Crown. Wow.

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