euphplayer07 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 Especially since all DCI captions are scored from 0 to 20! Oh #### my mistake. a PERFECT 20 in Visual.... not too shabby. Not to mention whatever their Visual GE was... I can't remember off hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagario Posted July 31, 2009 Author Share Posted July 31, 2009 I agree for sure. A dirty show isn't going to get a 99.15, and BD definitely isn't dirty. But innovation is DEFINITELY weighted in, especially nowadays. I'm looking for the innovation caption on the judges sheets............ I can't find them! Effectiveness is the main criteria that judges comment on (especially GE). I don't think innovation is weighted quite to the degree you claim it to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinwiz Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 So in your opinion then Devil's should have won last year? Two PERFECT 30's in Visual last year... as for as I know that has never been done before. (I know you meant 20.) They did get three perfect scores at Semis (although technically one was half of a GE panel), but you forgot the other half: They have to sweep the captions. They did get one perfect score on Finals night but can't drop a single caption if you want to hit 99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behold888 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 If BD's show this year isn't innovative, who's is?? One of the criteria for being in box 5 range (over 18.0 in a caption) is pushing the activity forward, or leading the way to new grounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
behold888 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 they should NOT.not really that innovative a show. not a lot of drill besides great opening block rotation. My guess is 96.8 I think they'll definitely break 97... I expect 98.XXX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan9 Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 One of the criteria for being in box 5 range (over 18.0 in a caption) is pushing the activity forward, or leading the way to new grounds. Well than there's certainly some 18's floating around that are flying fast and loose with the words "new ground". Maybe "new" to them, but probably not even that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOLDRUMCORPZ Posted July 31, 2009 Share Posted July 31, 2009 (edited) Sure, BD's show is clean, but is it as demanding as other shows? No. I hope Crown passes them in the two days of Allentown. Their show is much more demanding, and more exciting. Edited July 31, 2009 by LOLDRUMCORPZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kagario Posted August 1, 2009 Author Share Posted August 1, 2009 Sure, BD's show is clean, but is it as demanding as other shows? No.I hope Crown passes them in the two days of Allentown. Their show is much more demanding, and more exciting. Ugh. 1st post huh? BD's show isn't as demanding, but is more effective. This is where the "great divide" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven69 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 Sure, BD's show is clean, but is it as demanding as other shows? No.I hope Crown passes them in the two days of Allentown. Their show is much more demanding, and more exciting. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdpk3000 Posted August 1, 2009 Share Posted August 1, 2009 I just have a question for all the crown wagon fans.....what makes there show so great.....do they sound good yes but if that was the only thing need scv sounds amazing this year and phantom is louder so i just don't see why crown is popular this year....are they good yes....but so are the scouts....and actually on a entertaining level i think the scouts are in my top 3 but thats not what the judges look at and they shouldn't......bd is crazy clean....and in my person opinion were robbed last year and in 2004 and countless other times. If one corps is going to beat bd this year it wont be crown....the only corps who can beat them this year is the cadets.....anniversary....they actually have a great show without talking or singing....they have a serious chance of winning but im pulling for bd all the way baby!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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