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what is this thread?

i don't care about what gets kept or removed on reddit, but at this point, all you do with victim blamers is reinforce their beliefs if you engage with them in any way. just sayin.

99 was amaa8ng musically to me. Probably maligned because of tarps and taxi parts lol.

80s 3peat 92, 93, 97, 99, 00, 05 Love a lot more but those are my big faves

You can't make a statement like this and say a few sentences later "let it play out in court". Not unless a judge dismisses dci as a defendant. But yeah, dci's lawyers def wont want dci saying anything about this. And for decades dci kept the mo of doing everything possible to avoid being culpable as a governing body when it comes to cases of abuse, always shifting the argument to say each member corps is in charge of policing itself. Truly disgusting and cowardly in every way. They didn't take an active role in getting those policies enacted activity-wide until they had no choice but to do so. Rational adults should be scrutinous of the degree to which they're actually being enforced.

Exactly. I preferred BD 2012 over BD 2014 which puts me in a minority I think, and I didn't care for much of anything they did between 2008-2011 or 2013 like a lot of people in this thread have said. It's just personal taste. Sentiments like "Tee-hee what the heck is DADA!?!?!?!? tee-hee-hee" being conflated with a lack of excellence by a corps? GTFO.

Babies can reduce any DCI show concept down to something that's trashable because it's all so silly if you really think about it. SCV and Crown at finals in 2007 had fans going at each other around me...and the shows were about a giant exclamation point vs horsies. There was some tension between BD and Cavies in 2003. One was about "cool" which doesn't really mean anything while the other was about a giant washing machine for green and yellow spandex onesies or something. It's just band. It all has a giggle factor.

BD 2012 exuded excellence. There isn't a theme a corps has done that isn't pretentious and silly even if it happens to be your personal favorite. It's all just marching band that takes itself way too seriously. People in crowds who try to make their opinion known to people around them are even more pretentious and silly. Real weirdos. Your opinion isn't that special no matter how many fellow weirdos get onboard with you. Every finals I went to there have been people like that. Every adult rolls their eyes and tries to ignore them.

Gross but not unexpected given the talent level out there, the competitiveness out there, and zero regulation of contracts in terms of being fair for performers. I have little doubt this will come to a head eventually. I feel like it's such a niche activity that the top performers could legally be considered "professionals/employees" which could open all kinds of interesting litigation. Look at NCAA basketball athletes right now. Today from Dartmouth, which is refusing to work with the players who voted. All of the emphasis by DCI on calling performers "students" and charging "tuition" hits home a little here: “Given Dartmouth’s decades-long commitment to athletics as an extension of our academic mission, we believe the regional director has made an extraordinary mistake in finding these students are employees,”

no, it's objective truth. meet me here for the first regional and we'll look up cv's for judges scoring music captions. you're 100% wrong. whether or not you're okay with it is opinion. and i respect the opinions of people who are okay with it. but don't say things that aren't true, especially if you try defending them with post hoc nonsense. it's just band, but don't talk about things you don't understand.

This is why I love Crown and Bloo in particular. I can almost always count on a musical product that's just as important to them as visual. It's simply not the case for the majority of corps anymore, and I don't blame them with the scoring being so heavily skewed towards visual. The fact that people with zero musical background are scoring music is yet another reason why scores are really a joke in the activity. It's always been kind of a joke, though, lol.

Yeah, that was rough. And 2000 was my favorite top 3 I ever saw live at finals. Went to 98,99,00, and 07...thanks again for that, @JohnD!. That top 3 in 2000 was a riot. The only other top 3 that compares for me is 93, and I never got to see any of those corps live, just on the PBS broadcast.

Their movement was breathtaking to watch live at finals, and we're talking about a top 2 that was also cooking pretty good with the Cadets and Cavies. BD 2000 is one of those weird shows that (for me) was better early season when it was more raw-sounding musically. It felt almost too refined by finals week. I don't know how to explain it.

I realize it's not their show concept, but that poster screams Roland from King's The Dark Tower series.

Saw Glassmen 99 early season when I was stationed in NC. I had seen their 98 show at finals, and I knew they were going to be good, but that 99 show was really amazing to me in particular. Even though they ended up getting 5th again at finals, I felt like it was a big step up. I loved the arrangement and overall production, and they just sounded like they were on their way to top 3 in the near future.