Low Brass Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I currently have a Bb Yamaha Baritone; a YBH301M. I've never played before, and am taking lessons on it. I have an opportunity to get a 2 valve G bugle Baritone. What is the difference? :( Is it just that it doesn't have the 3rd valve...(could it be that simple?) Is there any place to pick up fingering charts for this? I also believe that they write the music in the treble clef, not bass. Anything else you could tell a novice player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camel lips Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 To my knowledge there is no such thing as a b flat bugle. A true bugle comes in the key of G.Further proof of this can be found searching the www.kanstul.com website.The b flat marching brass is located in the B flat marching brass section and the g bugles are listed under the bugle section. fingering positions are the same for a G bugle as they are for a b flat instrument. Bugles can come in 1,2 or 3 valve configurations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCL_Contra Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 (edited) As far as playing well with others. If you are going to play a G bugle with others playing Bb horns then your music will need to be transposed down a minor third. This will allow the normal fingerings to be used to produce the same pitches as all the others. This can be confusing if you think about it too hard. Most G corps (that don't write in treble clef only) will write their music just the same as a if for a concert band. The total sound you hear however will be a third lower in pitch Edited March 2, 2004 by MCL_Contra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucas97 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 To my knowledge there is no such thing as a b flat bugle.A true bugle comes in the key of G. http://home.hvc.rr.com/jmitchell1/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camel lips Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 To my knowledge there is no such thing as a b flat bugle.A true bugle comes in the key of G. http://home.hvc.rr.com/jmitchell1/ Excellent read.Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contrasteve2001 Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 I currently have a Bb Yamaha Baritone; a YBH301M. I've never played before, and am taking lessons on it. I have an opportunity to get a 2 valve G bugle Baritone. What is the difference? :( Is it just that it doesn't have the 3rd valve...(could it be that simple?) Is there any place to pick up fingering charts for this? I also believe that they write the music in the treble clef, not bass. Anything else you could tell a novice player? this is Drum Corps in the 21st century????...no thanks!!! <**> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 A true bugle comes in the key of G. and a true bugle does not have any valves (so I thought)...... With each generation it seems the one before only knows the such definitions (or so they claim) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted March 2, 2004 Share Posted March 2, 2004 Key has nothing to do with the definition of a bugle. If you want to be really technical, even the first civilian drum corps weren't really playing on bugles, but "field trumpets." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Brass Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 I currently have a Bb Yamaha Baritone; a YBH301M. I've never played before, and am taking lessons on it. I have an opportunity to get a 2 valve G bugle Baritone. What is the difference? :( Is it just that it doesn't have the 3rd valve...(could it be that simple?) Is there any place to pick up fingering charts for this? I also believe that they write the music in the treble clef, not bass. Anything else you could tell a novice player? this is Drum Corps in the 21st century????...no thanks!!! <**> Nice guy you are! <**> I marched before you were probably born! Now I would like a little help with an "Old Horn" Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Brass Posted March 2, 2004 Author Share Posted March 2, 2004 To my knowledge there is no such thing as a b flat bugle.A true bugle comes in the key of G.Further proof of this can be found searching the www.kanstul.com website.The b flat marching brass is located in the B flat marching brass section and the g bugles are listed under the bugle section. fingering positions are the same for a G bugle as they are for a b flat instrument. Bugles can come in 1,2 or 3 valve configurations. Maybe the post wasn't clear... I HAVE a Bb baritone, and can buy an inexpensive 2 valve G bugle Baritone. I wanted to know how only 2 valves performed compared to a 3 valve instrument. Is it just that you can't play anything with the #3 valve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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