RiverRat Posted April 18, 2006 Author Share Posted April 18, 2006 So is everyone in agreement that this is a 1124 or 1127 knockoff and not worth the time? How would they have been able to completely copy it so well? For the price, it almost looks worth it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 The picture is probably not the horn they're actually selling; most likely they took that picture from another website or catalog. Even if it is, it's easy to make a horn look good and be very low-quality. (see: Walmart and Sam's Club's "First Act" instruments) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThunderContra Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 The also have a Tuba too(from india). It even has a brand name Maestro or something similar. ya I honestly think those horns suck ya 8$ buy it now but that not with the 200$ to ship it. I also had a maestro trombone, it was a piece of S*** and i have a maestro blue trumpet, its allright except that the regester is hard to move around on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjabba Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 (edited) ya I honestly think those horns suck ya 8$ buy it now but that not with the 200$ to ship it. I also had a maestro trombone, it was a piece of S*** and i have a maestro blue trumpet, its allright except that the regester is hard to move around on. I had a Bestler Chinese Baritone. It's like the BandNow Horns Woodwind Brasswind sells. It didn't really play in tune all that well, and it scared the #### out of me if something broke on it. I Sold it and bought my Olds Studio Baritone. Best Bari Ever Edited April 19, 2006 by sonofjabba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffBanyots Posted April 21, 2006 Share Posted April 21, 2006 (edited) I love the fact that in the photos, with the horn brand new, not being played, sitting in the case... The second valve is stuck! Edited April 21, 2006 by JeffBanyots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minimaster Posted April 22, 2006 Share Posted April 22, 2006 Yeah, that was a definite red flag for me looking at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phirefenix Posted April 24, 2006 Share Posted April 24, 2006 Yeah, I would even venture to say the second valve isn't stuck, but that the stem is short. Or the felt is too thick. Something along those lines might also be the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjabba Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 Yeah, I would even venture to say the second valve isn't stuck, but that the stem is short. Or the felt is too thick. Something along those lines might also be the issue. ::Garbage:: Plain and Simple.. Looks more like the Yamaha than the King.. And the pinky ring is like the older Kanstuls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_basey Posted April 27, 2006 Share Posted April 27, 2006 When I talked to the local music store / repair shop, they told me that they now refuse to work on instruments such as these. These cheap horns from India and China are made of a low grade pot metal. The repair guys said the metal melts at a lower temperature then the solder does. When they would try to fix a brace, the horn would begin to melt before the solder did. I have also been told that the tubas from India will not accept any standard tuba mouthpiece shank, it will only fit the pos mouthpiece that comes with it. Also, quality control is nonexistant, don't be surprised if your pretty new horn shows up missing a valve or with a split in the bell. It really isn't worth the time and headache that these horns will give you, not at any price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofjabba Posted May 1, 2006 Share Posted May 1, 2006 When I talked to the local music store / repair shop, they told me that they now refuse to work on instruments such as these. These cheap horns from India and China are made of a low grade pot metal. The repair guys said the metal melts at a lower temperature then the solder does. When they would try to fix a brace, the horn would begin to melt before the solder did. I have also been told that the tubas from India will not accept any standard tuba mouthpiece shank, it will only fit the pos mouthpiece that comes with it. Also, quality control is nonexistant, don't be surprised if your pretty new horn shows up missing a valve or with a split in the bell. It really isn't worth the time and headache that these horns will give you, not at any price. Like I said Garbage! My repair guys say the same thing! Better off buying the real deal a King, Olds, Bach Mercedes, Yamaha, Dynasty's even a Blessing or Jupiter. Or a used horn and Getting it Overhauled to use for a couple bucks more.. At least you can have any repair shop in the world Repair those. BTW The new generation of Jupiter Horns isn't half bad. On par with Dynasty, for less money. The guys who do my repair work speak highly of the Jupiter brass, they've come a long way. I tried a new Jupiter Sousaphone (Fiberglass) Last year, No worst then my the Bach 1529 Fiberglass Sousaphone I had. That pretty Chrome plating on those Indo/Chinese horns hides a lot of problems. They are too tempting.. www.thebandroom.biz They have a good Brass buyers guide on eBay. One of the best stops on eBay for musical stuff, and repair work. Located in Chattanooga. I won't let anyone else touch my horn, and I ship all my stuff to them. Tell them Pat Hollins Sent you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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