SkyDog Posted November 20, 2006 Share Posted November 20, 2006 Now, I've heard of people breaking a rim because they tightened it too much. How will I know when the head is too tight? Breaking rims doesn't happen often, but when it does happen, it's usually due more to uneven tension than excessive tension. Make sure the drum is in tune from lug to lug and then increase tension on each lug little by little. IIRC, Remo recommends tensioning the drum in a circular pattern, going from one lug to the next in a clockwise or counter-clockwise order instead of the traditional pattern of tightening opposite sides of the drum. As for being able to tell when the head is too tight... Modern heads and drum hardware should be able to withstand any reasonable playing tension. So long as you're not cranking the head like you were trying to determine the breaking strength of kevlar, you should be OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Adam Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 Breaking rims doesn't happen often, but when it does happen, it's usually due more to uneven tension than excessive tension. Make sure the drum is in tune from lug to lug and then increase tension on each lug little by little. IIRC, Remo recommends tensioning the drum in a circular pattern, going from one lug to the next in a clockwise or counter-clockwise order instead of the traditional pattern of tightening opposite sides of the drum.As for being able to tell when the head is too tight... Modern heads and drum hardware should be able to withstand any reasonable playing tension. So long as you're not cranking the head like you were trying to determine the breaking strength of kevlar, you should be OK. I would be willing to bet that you would determine the breaking point of a few chrome plated lugs long before anything happened to the kevlar. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted November 21, 2006 Share Posted November 21, 2006 I dunno...I've blown a few snare-side kevlar heads in my time. Man, those things make one hell of a bang when they go too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyDog Posted November 22, 2006 Share Posted November 22, 2006 I dunno...I've blown a few snare-side kevlar heads in my time.Man, those things make one hell of a bang when they go too... If you think it makes a bang when a head blows, you should see what happens when a rim goes! On mid-80s or early 90s Yamahas (before the Corps Custom or sfz models), the rims can actually shatter and send shrapnel flying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwethinkweizm Posted November 23, 2006 Author Share Posted November 23, 2006 Ok now I have another problem except it's with the bottom head. I started playing on my drum today and I look at the bottom rim and notice that one of the lugs was LOOSE! Can you tell me how this happens and why? By the way, this is what my drum looks like: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slow Adam Posted November 24, 2006 Share Posted November 24, 2006 Ok now I have another problem except it's with the bottom head.I started playing on my drum today and I look at the bottom rim and notice that one of the lugs was LOOSE! Can you tell me how this happens and why? By the way, this is what my drum looks like: It's a problem I've noticed with Yamaha. I've been tightening bottom lugs non-stop since HYPE got the new drums a year ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 You see those white nylon nuts on the bottom tension rods between the rim and the lug casings? Tighten those all the way down against the rims and put a bit of force into it. That's what those are there for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwethinkweizm Posted November 30, 2006 Author Share Posted November 30, 2006 (edited) Oh noes. I looked at the bottom rim and I noticed that the rim is cracked near one of the snares. I don't know how since the drum hasn't left my carpeted room. They haven't been tuned at all and I don't hit the rims either. What did I do wrong? Edited November 30, 2006 by azwethinkweizm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tristan Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 Can you post a picture? I've never heard of one of those rims cracking, and I've seen drums like that last for 10 years or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azwethinkweizm Posted December 29, 2006 Author Share Posted December 29, 2006 Problem: I've tightened all of the lugs as tight as I could and I start with one random lug and do the cross tuning method. The only problem is when I start with the first one then tune the second one, the one right next to it is very loose to where I could hand turn it out of the slot. What am I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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