Please allow me to chime in briefly on this topic. To begin, I agree with the concern about one or two of the suggestive guard routines this year. They made me a little uncomfortable, and such a thing typically wouldn't bother me that much normally. What I have a problem with is the criticism of another person on the basis that the person can't be perfect, so they have little room for making a legitimate stand for modesty, etc. "Oh, so and so is such a prude..... he must be a card player, oh and he must gamble, and he must be sinning....so let's continue to watch the situation slowly drift downward.... instead of really taking a good look at today's and tomorrow's youth and their future." Do you see where I'm approaching from? I know there are other problems in the world, but some of us feel that this indeed poses a problem, too, that we should think about. Sorry to get off on another OT rant!