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WOOOOOO CAGEBALL!!! Who remembers all the stitches and broken fingers and whatnot?* *edited for stupidfast typing.

We had a girl walk out one day. She left her stuff in the gym and walked miles to the Greyhound station.

You see, that's the thing. Although I know some corps hold tricks in reserve, by and large corps are developed enough in June to entertain. I'm sort of having this argument in another thread, but I believe if the majority of folks that come to local shows know nothing more about the marching activity than their local high school or college band, then June precision and development is going to be enough to entertain them. If, however, the person watching is a fan, chances are they're going to enjoy watching throughout the season to see development, perhaps not through another show but through APDs, live webcasts, the quarterfinals moviecast, the midseason, CD, and the finals DVDs.

I'm interested in how many fans see just one show, and how many go to 2 or more. Even if it is not a large percentage or a majority, it's still worth changes to the show. Unrelated to asking about these stats but still important reasons for show evolution: Enjoyment for the performers. Changing the show can break monotony. Important for the performers not to become bored with the show. The deepening development of a program throughout the year is a really important part of what we do. You really expect a show to be really emotionally mature at the beginning of a season? I heard a really neat analogy once -- a show buds in June, blooms in July and August, and dies after finals.

Got stats to back that up, or just anecdotal experience?

He's not saying it isn't. If there was a drum corps ######, it' was probably Daniel Ray. :) He's describing by and large the perception of Joe America about the band activity, which for all intents and purposes includes school band, college bands, and drum corps. We only see differences because we are so close to it. From far far away, the differences are miniscule.

Sure, because then there's a reason for fans to go to multiple shows. Evolution. Makes me want to go to regionals to see the improvements and how they're affecting the outcome. For those of us who are knowledgeable, we'd rather see this than THE EXACT SAME SHOW ALL SEASON. bleh.

Yeah, the greeting was always the highlight of bringing family members to visit... "Hey, let's go say hi to the bus!" Let's just say it's a good thing no one's offended by swear words in my family.

OMG, we STILL did the "sucks to be you" thing in the late 90s. ALL those roads near Dubuque to "Cornfield Tour" sites SUCK.

True. It sends a specific message to the corps about who they're in competition with, who they're not even in the same league as, and how likely it is that they'll "catch" the next corps up in that caption.

I don't know but you don't want to date him or anything. I hear he grows fungus on his feet.

Interesting thought. Andy's take was radically different from Paul or Albert. (disclaimer: I am ok with all 3 night's scores. We put it out there, and we take what we can get.) You say you trust them and we can't hear what they're sampling (true), so how much of this is about THEIR performance as judges getting around the field and getting the right things for a good sample? Of course, by Finals, Andy, Paul and Albert had already seen Coats and knew where to be on the field. I guess this would affect corps in the early season more -- if the judge didn't have a "good show," the score might suffer. :P Beyond that, although we have sheets and standards, it's still fairly objective. Each judge will have their ideal characteristic sounds/blends/technique styles/opinions about difficulty, and different levels of what's a pet peeve and what's more important. Maybe the Bluecoats matched up to Andy's ideals but not Paul's or Albert's. Which means that who ends up on what panel can make a HUGE difference -- not in terms of corps favoritism, just in terms of being a musician and having preferences and opinions.

At a rest stop this year in the middle of Kentucky or something, I ran into a friend I hadn't seen in 7 years. I'd lost his phone number, so I didn't know he was on tour with Regiment, who had also stopped. It was crazy to be bleary eyed and stumbling one minute and hugging a long lost friend the next.

Because spreads matter. My favorite is honey walnut, from Panera.

Eh. they're entertaining enough for joe ticketbuyer at smallshow usa in June and July. Sometimes art takes time.

Not fair at this moment when we are all used to growing and developing our shows throughout the season. That'd be unfair to the corps that get it together in August.

There has been some discussion on here about whether star's 93 show was minimalist. I guess not, if you go by the true definition of minimalism. However, I think the reason people think that is because that program had a very cerebral, mature and distinct show concept (especially for the time) that was INCREDIBLY hard to pull off. And I think that's why so many people now love that corps that year: it was incredibly brave to try to be emotional on material that would not automatically touch hearts and minds, and we respect them for the inherent difficulty in that. Not only were the notes, drill, etc. a high level of difficulty, the emotional connectivity was too. and they did it.

Huh. I guess it was interesting to make it impossible for any corps to score a perfect season.

Because saying things like "Hopkins and his rabble" or rubtle, or whatever you said...doesn't show that you are interested in having an honest discussion. You know it and we know it. You can have an opinion and still be objective and civil.

I haven't read through the thread...this has probably been said but.. Unfair question. If all of the corps were like any of the corps it would be boring.

This is a great thread. I think drum corps has lots of effects on young people, good and bad. I know I got used to being told where to go and what to do and then finding myself directionless and un-self-starting when I got home. The benefits definitely outweigh the risks, but everyone knows people who have kind of dropped out of their "real" lives to march drum corps.

This all goes to prove to me even more it doesn't matter what rules pass or what changes are made. It'll still be drum corps.