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Ladies and Gentlemen, I don't like to get into p1ss1ing contests but some things said in this thread really got me by the proverbial goat. I know that Chickie seems to have done something that many people disagree with, integrity wise. I could not really understand her rant and self defense bloviations and suggest she take a remedial writing course. As for PTR250, I have never found his writings to be well reasoned nor his philosophies to be consistent, but he's got the market cornered on negativity and he is a very bad cyber-bully. We really don't need to feed the troll and drop the level of discourse into the gutter on these forums. Let's play nice. Rather than call for people like this to be banned, we can all click on the user name above their avatar, click on profile options and select "ignore user". This way he can say anything he wants...in a vacuum. p.s. Hi John! How's it goin?

The 27th Lancers entire performance at the '72 DCI is posted at www.beanman.net for anyone who has not yet seen it. -also- www.xKingsmen.com has an mp3 of the the scores (read during a torrential downpour) posted in their multimedia section. Thank you Joe, for bringing a little bit of the of the history to light.

Welcome home, Lancer

There's a few words about it in "TWO-SEVEN: a brief history of the 27th Lancers" which can be found here I would have liked to have heard Father Gallegher's take on the sit down at the VFW finals and the subsequent breakup. All this happened 40 years ago and has passed into the realm of legend, therefore the facts are, shall we say, less important than the story itself.

In the 60's and 70's it was quite common for some corps, even some at the world class level to include a member or two that were walk-ons, people who had little musical training and sometimes no marching experience whatsoever. This was sometimes necessary to reach the 128 member mark. The four corps that Lancer Legend mentioned would need to attract 512 members to fill out the ranks. What he didn't mention is that in the 70's there were another 25-30 corps all within about a 90 minute drive of Boston, and all looking to fill their ranks every year. Doing the fuzzy math means >3000 corps members in greater Boston alone all during an era when relocating cross country to march Div. 1 was a fairly new phenomenon. (No warranty offered nor implied on my math.) Oh, getting back to the question, having no auditions does NOT mean that there were no cuts. P.S. Hey Legend, how are the black flies up in vacationland?

That's one of the funniest lines I have ever read on DCP!

Thank you Nancy, Not ashamed to admit it, that one made me cry. (In a strong, manly kind of way)

You crack me up, John. Your prize is on ice right now. BTW!!! A 27th Lancer milestone: Michael Dustin hits the half century mark. Happy Birthday brother !

2/7... Thats great. Let's all celebrate tonight with a trip down to Bill Ash's down on Reveah beach! First round is on me. For those of you who can't get to Revere and one of the world's most geologically perfect beaches (not makin' that up...check National Geographic.) How about a virtual visit with the 27th Lancers at: www.beanman.net www.27thlancers.net -or- www.27thlancers.com (find a picture of john2780 and win a prize!)

Thanks folks. 158Mb? I just checked the file sizes again and it only comes out to 87Mb for me. I ought to know...I put it there. The file on xKingsmen (a cool site I might add!) could be an older one that I had some streaming problems with. I remember doing some work on that file and compressing it a little further for better streaming performance on beanman.net. If you have the patience for the download, I am sure the one from xKingsmen does look a bit better. I am looking around for the video file of the1971 VFW performance that Keith Wilbur sent me but it has slipped into the black hole on my desk. Still looking. I am open to suggestions for anything else people would like to see on my site.

The Cotton Bowl had astroturf, and as I remember it was the real cheesy kind of turf. I remember stepping off and the turf would release it's heat with every step and I felt a wave of heat coming up from those spit-shined Navy Oxfords. I also remember someone saying about 130 degrees at field level. Above 115...it all feels the same! 1971 was my favorite year. Sometimes the point spread from 1st to 12th could only be about 3 or 3.5 points. Doesn't get anymore exciting than that.

Good advice T... Vote early and often (new (old) stuff at Beanman.net-check it out)

And an All-girls World Open Champ, Norwood Debonnaires

Actually the retreat had started and all 12 corps had just made it onto the field when the skies opened up. At that point the retreat melted faster than the wicked witch of the west and almost every corps had run off the field by the time the scores were half done. The Lancers were probably the last corps to leave, we didn't run...we marched off. I think my uniform finally dried out last week. A wet kilt smells amazingly like a wet dog.

Mega-dittoes Legend! Many thought that Hymie was not of this planet. Yeah, I know. Somerville WAS another planet. (no offense, Terry) One of my favorites was in the showers on tour, "Look at these zits! What girl would #@*%!& me with all these zits!

Roosevelt was a great place for drum corp. Hot, dusty and foreign turf for us New Englanders, but a great place for a show. "On the starting line...with a score of..." No Tony! that part comes later! I was just up in Lynn last weekend for a graduation party and talked with some old friends about Manning Bowl, the other east coast shrine. The demolition of Manning bowl is supposed to happen sometime this summer but the word is that the city and the minor league baseball team may build a new stadium on the site. Still would never be the same. I had a lot of great times at that crumbling old pile of concrete...won a World Open there too.

Oh no! And the meds had been working so well all these years...then you had to mention "that name" Oh well. Looks like I'm back in therapy. LRLLRLRRLRLLRLRR&*^%*(%&^$&%**^%**

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A very large turnover in members. The '74 corps was made up of mostly very young and inexperienced kids. The staff had a big turnover as well in both '74 and '75. The '75 staff really clicked and included some very experienced people such as Joe Marrella and Ralph Pace, of course Wedge was always there. The '74 show, while it had some nice moments, was not a top 12 offering. Has anyone else risen 16 places in one season? Don't know...reply hazy...ask again later.

"ignore user" One of the best features of DCP

Hey Fi, I marched my first "cootie" in 1970, We marched and then got right on the busses, in costumes, to drive all night to The Shriner's in Toronto. Most of us were still in our costumes when we made the first whiz stop on the NY Thruway. I remember Duffy still dressed as the Easter Bunny getting a sandwich and coffee, and Peggy Twiggs dressed as a nun bumming a smoke! Here's your pop quiz: Before the 1969 Cooties parade, who is credited with saying, "But George, I'm a guided missile, REALLY!" ??? bonus point: What was he really dressed up as? BTW, I hereby nominate LancerFi as imperial exalted queen of DCP, second anyone?

Reprisal? Oh oh... Did I say the wrong thing again? ;{ I hope the word you were looking for Scott was "reprise" And Legend gets it exactly right! 27 had a history of interpreting rules by what they "didn't" say rather than what was spelled out. The corps' love/hate relationship with rulebooks goes back to that pivotal incident with the Reveries at the 1966 VFW nationals. And did I really drive you to rehearsal that many times, Legend?? Good thing you lived in Roslindale then (aka God's neighborhood) and not in Vacationland.

Steve you have a wonderful site there! I saw that video and you can clearly see the trick flags were Waaaay Ahead of their time! WOW! Thanks for sharing that! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks and you're welcome Malibu! I will make sure Mrs. Bean sees your comment. She was one of the original six trick flags.

Interesting that there were two judges in the captions, and there were spreads like - Judge 1 - 1st Judge 2 - 13th ... and so forth. I'm so used to the Danny Boy wheel I expected it, and then the whole corps just marches to the end zone for the end push - which was very interesting to see. Was there a rule or something? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hey Rick, liked your pix in the other thread. Let me see if I can conjure up some memories of the way things shook out during the first year of DCI. First of all there was a rule saying the shows had to start behind the "starting line" and the corps had to completely cross the "finish line" and stay OFF the field. The Lancers were the first corps to use the back sideline to line up the low brass but notice in that video they do not enter the field by crossing the back line. They march down the line and turned the corner to enter over the starting line. In '73 the entry rule included the starting line and back sideline up to the 50 yard line. By 1974 the entire back sideline was legal as a field entry point and exiting the field was not necessary. Back under the Legion and VFW rules in the 50's and 60's, a single tempo range was permissible during a show. Tempo was randomly measured twice during a show. If the corps tempo fell outside a certain range (120bpm-132bpm was the range I think) the corps was penalized. I remember drum critiques back in the 60's and 70's where stylistic differences (i.e. buzz rolls) were considered roll body errors by some judges. Some judges understood and could accurately adjudicate Timpani intonation, others judged them under criteria similar to tuned basses. Hence the occasional wide discrepancies in scoring. Again, thank you all for visiting beanman.net and for you words of encouragement. More stuff coming when I get the chance. And, thanks again to Keith Wilbur, make sure you visit xKingsmen.com and watch his video clips.