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I thought St Kevins had won the night show, in what had to be the greatest "Comeback Season" in junior drum corps. :laugh: They did, in fact take top drums.

Don't forget that St. Kevin's would have taken that World Fair show over the Royal Airs, had it not been for a penalty. I think it was a flag violation. Andy???

My take is that Kevins had a strong year in 64, but again, on any given night any of those top several corps could have taken home the prize.

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Don't forget that St. Kevin's would have taken that World Fair show over the Royal Airs, had it not been for a penalty. I think it was a flag violation. Andy???

My take is that Kevins had a strong year in 64, but again, on any given night any of those top several corps could have taken home the prize.

Flag penalty would be my guess ... fairly common in those days along with sideline violations ... 1964 was the final surge of greatness for St. Kevin's ... huge staff changes made the early season painful for them ... then something kicked into high gear around the Dream and they were a force throughout all the national shows ... Boston did the exact opposite ... had only lost one show prior to the nationals (to the Bpt. PAL) ... went on an extended midwest tour and demolished the Cavies, Royal Airs, Kilties, etc ... and then never got the benefit of the doubt at nats ... kind of like Blue Rock in 70 and 71 ... unbeatable before and after nats but, not at them ... go figure ...

Anyway, for my money the 60's were 'da bomb, with 66 being the pinnacle (IMO) ... each year offered a true array of competitive talent at the VFW, WO, Dream, CYO and AL nats ... even some new shows popped up like the US Open in 68 ... (I actually thought the first one was in 66 with St. Lucy's winning it but, can't find documentation anywhere) ... oh well ... it was only 40 years ago - right?

Maybe it's time for a 60's National Junior Revival Reunion (ala GAS) at the next VFW Convention ... they still have those? ... if not we could do it at the Elks Parade or Jersey States in Wildwood - their Mayor is very Drum Corps friendly ... LOL ... hell ... there's certainly enough Alumni Associations out there to put a party together!!!

Andy " I want to relive the 60's again" Lisko

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Flag penalty would be my guess ... fairly common in those days along with sideline violations ... 1964 was the final surge of greatness for St. Kevin's ... huge staff changes made the early season painful for them ... then something kicked into high gear around the Dream and they were a force throughout all the national shows ... Boston did the exact opposite ... had only lost one show prior to the nationals (to the Bpt. PAL) ... went on an extended midwest tour and demolished the Cavies, Royal Airs, Kilties, etc ... and then never got the benefit of the doubt at nats ... kind of like Blue Rock in 70 and 71 ... unbeatable before and after nats but, not at them ... go figure ...

Anyway, for my money the 60's were 'da bomb, with 66 being the pinnacle (IMO) ... each year offered a true array of competitive talent at the VFW, WO, Dream, CYO and AL nats ... even some new shows popped up like the US Open in 68 ... (I actually thought the first one was in 66 with St. Lucy's winning it but, can't find documentation anywhere) ... oh well ... it was only 40 years ago - right?

Maybe it's time for a 60's National Junior Revival Reunion (ala GAS) at the next VFW Convention ... they still have those? ... if not we could do it at the Elks Parade or Jersey States in Wildwood - their Mayor is very Drum Corps friendly ... LOL ... hell ... there's certainly enough Alumni Associations out there to put a party together!!!

Andy " I want to relive the 60's again" Lisko

"Want To relive the '60s'":

Just "How Wild" was it?

Highland Park IL

August 15 1964

1. 84.17 Chicago Cavaliers

2. 79.28 Blessed Sacrament

3. 76.40 Racine Kilties

4. 74.63 Norwood Park Imperials

5. 73.77 Toronto Optimists

6. 72.70 Racine Explorer Scouts

7. 70.85 Chicago Vanguard

8. 62.93 Marion Cadets

9. 62.72 Cedar Rapids Cadets

VFW Nationals Prelims

Clevland Ohio

August 16, 1964

1. 87.60 Racine Kilties

2. 86.20 Chicago Royal Airs

3. 85.85 Boston Crusaders

3. 85.85 St Kevins Emerald Knights

5. 85.75 St Marys Cardinals

6. 85.50 St Lucys Cadets

7. 84.40 Chicago Cavaliers

8. 84.30 Vasella Musketeers

9. 83.95 Blessed Sacrament

10.83.50 St Josephs/Batavia

11.82.67 Casper Troopers

12.82.60 Garfield Cadets

13.81.82 Bpt. PAL Cadets

13.81.82 Racine Explorers

15.81.35 Phantom Regiment

16.80.90 Magnificent Yankees

17.80.85 Marion Cadets

18.79.90 Chicago Vanguard

19.78.85 Madison Scouts

20.78.60 Chicago Spartans

There were 45 corps entered in the VFW Prelims.

Scores courtesy Drum Corps News

Royal Airs Win World's Fair Show

New York, August 29 1964

A one point penalty for a flag violation helped the Chicago Royal Airs to a victory over the St Kevin Emerald Knights of Dorchester MA at the VFW Day contest helpd here at the Singer Bowl at the New York Worlds Fair.

Scores:

1. 85.30 Chicago Royal Airs

2. 84.60 St Kevin Emerald Knights (1 pt pen)

3. 84.45 Chicago Cavaliers

4. 84.35 Racine Kilties (1 Pt pen)

5. 82.80 Casper Troopers

6. 82.30 St Joasephs/Bataivia

7. 81.95 St Lucys Cadets

8. 80.90 Racine Explorers

9. 78.55 Garfield Cadets

10.76.95 Magnificent Yankees

11.76.70 Madison Scouts

12.70.10 Marion Cadets

13.63.15 Blue Rock

14.62.35 Lancers

15.56.60 Chessmen

16.49.85 Jackson Raiders

17.44.50 Greenville Presidents

Scores courtesy DCN & Eatern Review

Elphaba

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The St. Joes placements just seem to be an aberration...

(6th at Nats, 6th at the World's Fair vs not even making finals at WO)

The day before the WO Prelims (at the World's Fair), St. Joes beat the likes of

St. Lucie's and Garfield - who they also beat at VFWs by about the same margin

a couple weeks earlier - only to lose to both of them by 4+ points the very

next day!?

It just seems.. out of kilter...

Does anyone know what happened to affect their placement that much in 24 hours?

"Out Of Kilter":

VFW Nationals 1964

Finals

1. 85.95 Racine Kilties

2. 84.47 Chicago Royal Airs

3. 83.95 Chicago Cavaliers

4. 82.92 Boston Crusaders

5. 82.50 St Kevin's Emerald Knights

6. 82.05 St Josephs/Batavia

7. 81.00 Blessed Sacrament

8. 80.60 St Lucys Cadets

9. 80.45 St Marys Cardinals

10.79.50 Vasella Musketeers

11.78.70 Casper Troopers

12.75.35 Garfield Cadets

World Open 1964

Finals

1. 86.25 Chicago Cavaliers

2. 84.43 Blessed Sacrament

3. 84.38 St Kevins Emerald Knights

4. 83.16 Chicago Royal Airs

5. 83.10 Boston Crusaders

6. 82.48 Garfield Cadets

7. 82.45 Racine Kilties

8. 78.58 St Lucys Cadets

9. 76.46 Selden Cadets

10. 75.18 Bpt. PAL Cadets

Prelim Scores 11-20 Place)

11.83.41 Casper Troopers

12.82.80 Madison Scouts

13.82.41 Racine Explorers

14.81.68 St Josephs/Batavia

15.80.58 St Raphaels Buccaneers

16.78.56 Marion Cadets

17.78.50 CT Royal Lancers

18.78.40 Frank Fort Starlighters

19.78.16 OLPH Ridgemen

20.77.75 St Roccos Cadets

Times sure have changed, haven't they...

Scores coutesy of Drum Corps News

Elphaba

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"Out Of Kilter":

Times sure have changed, haven't they...

Scores coutesy of Drum Corps News

Elphaba

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Elphaba, you seem to also have a rich, deep dc history ... what corps did you march with?

Andy

St. Raphael's/Bpt.PAL 58-68

NY Skyliners 69-81

Sky Alumni 94-06

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Elphaba, you seem to also have a rich, deep dc history ... what corps did you march with?

Andy

St. Raphael's/Bpt.PAL 58-68

NY Skyliners 69-81

Sky Alumni 94-06

"Deep DC History":

Thanks a huge bit for the kind comments. I actually marched the same years you did, color guard & bugle (Junior corps, senior's was just a dream for females "Back Then"), and remember St Raphael's and the Bridgeport PAL Cadets (As well as the old Connecticut Royal Lancers) as fierce competitors/rivals at all levels.

Defy Gravity.

Elphaba

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