sburstall Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) A short discussion started about whether or not the corps who's seeded #1 in semi-finals wins DCI championships. Then it was brought up about using some statistical formula to find out how statistically it was. Well after spending a few moments over the weekend I charted who was #1 in semis and finals. Guess what? No statistics was needed, just looking at the data one could see it that in the 35 year history of DCI, only 3 times did the #1 corps NOT win. That means 33/36 or 91.7% chance of a corps actually winning it (see 1978 for 36). edit: Failed to mention, the numbers are what position the semi-final winner came in (1st...duh) and the the second is what position the semi winner came in at Finals. ....... Corps ....... Position Year... Pre.. Fin.... Pre . Fin 1972... SCV.. AK...... 1 ... 3 1973... SCV.. SCV..... 1 ... 1 1974... MS... SCV..... 1 ... 2 1975... MS... MS...... 1 ... 1 1976... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1977... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1978a.. SCV.. SCV..... 1 ... 1 1978b.. PR... SCV..... 1 ... 2 1979... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1980... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1981... SCV.. SCV..... 1 ... 1 1982... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1983... SCV.. CBC..... 1 ... 3 1984... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 1985... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 1986... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1987... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 1988... MS... MS...... 1 ... 1 1989... SCV.. SCV..... 1 ... 1 1990... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 1991... SI... SI...... 1 ... 1 1992... CAV.. CAV..... 1 ... 1 1993... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 1994... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1995... CAV.. CAV..... 1 ... 1 1996... BD... BD/PR... 1 ... 1 1997... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 1998... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 1999... BD... BD/SCV.. 1 ... 1 2000... CBC.. CBC/CAV. 1 ... 1 2001... CAV.. CAV..... 1 ... 1 2002... CAV.. CAV..... 1 ... 1 2003... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 2004... CAV.. CAV..... 1 ... 1 2005... CBC.. CBC..... 1 ... 1 2006... CAV.. CAV..... 1 ... 1 2007... BD... BD...... 1 ... 1 I'll leave the discussion up to you all. The data is pretty straightforward and no statistical analysis was really needed. Edited August 13, 2007 by sburstall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 ...only 3 times did the #1 corps NOT win. And NEVER since the tick system went bye-bye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburstall Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 And NEVER since the tick system went bye-bye. Well once in '83 ('82 was the transition year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertrombone Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 And BUTKUS since 83--wow! Might have misspelled that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaddabout Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 It makes sense. You are what you are by the time you get to championships. The execution of those corps are near-assassin level by that time, and the only thing that usually separates 1 through 3 is GE, the mother of all scores. I'd like to see a list of all the winners and their GE placement. I bet the winner of GE is almost always the overall winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studman Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) It makes sense. You are what you are by the time you get to championships. The execution of those corps are near-assassin level by that time, and the only thing that usually separates 1 through 3 is GE, the mother of all scores.I'd like to see a list of all the winners and their GE placement. I bet the winner of GE is almost always the overall winner. COOL STATS! It'd be neat to see what the %'s are for #1 quarter-finals corps that *don't* go on to win it all. My bud who marched quads in '92 Cavies for quarterfinals remembers well hearing their 97- score, and later in the evening Star's score was announced "96-point.??? (unbridled roar clouding the rest of the score)." :P Edited August 13, 2007 by Studman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Nagging Cough! Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 (edited) And BUTKUS since 83--wow! Might have misspelled that. If you're going Yiddish on us, it's bupkus. One of the greatest Chicago Bears in history isn't really germane to this discussion. It did make me laugh, though. We could use more Dick Butkus since 1983. I bet he could still plant some guys in the ground. Edited August 13, 2007 by The Nagging Cough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburstall Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 COOL STATS! It'd be neat to see what the %'s are for #1 quarter-finals corps that *don't* go on to win it all. My bud who marched quads in '92 Cavies for quarterfinals remembers well hearing their 97- score, and later in the evening Star's score was announced "96-point.??? (unbridled roar clouding the rest of the score)." :P That would be hard because not every year had quarter-finals. Some years had partial quarters. Meaning the top 12 from previous year opted out from doing quarters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam Posted August 13, 2007 Share Posted August 13, 2007 Well once in '83 ('82 was the transition year). Oops. Sorry. Got my years confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sburstall Posted August 13, 2007 Author Share Posted August 13, 2007 Oops. Sorry. Got my years confused. Not a problem, '82 was that hybrid/transition year. They had both tic and build-up going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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