Euph_Dolphin Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 whats the best way to set your self up, or exercises, to help build a high octave range for baritone, im talking bari screamin B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geneseo_bari_87 Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 (edited) The best thing that ever happened to my range was getting braces. What that forced me to do for the year that I had them was to really build up the corners of my embrochure, which built a solid foundation for playing in the upper register. I remember my horn instructor that summer walking around behind me during runthroughs saying "push your corners in!" I really had to do it to save my face from the pressure I was used to applying to get the high notes. Once I got my braces off, I had this great mucscle base and a new habit of pushing my corners in to play high. Really, firm corners help in all ranges of the instrument, though. I guess what you can do is keep this in mind when you practice, and gradually add higher and higher notes to your practice routine. Long tones are good. Start low each day and work up to the highest note you can play a long tone on comfortably. Maybe add a half step a week, or every other week, whatever is comfortable. Rest as much as you play when you're playing these long tones. It's a workout, that's how you build muscles. Oh yeah, and use lots of air! Good support from the abdominal muscles. Whatever you do, don't smile! :) Edited August 26, 2004 by geneseo_bari_87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the moon is down Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 dont force it and work on your low range. you gotta have a good low range to be able to play high Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelloHorn13 Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Bari screamin' Those were the days, James Bond and the screamin Bari!!! Air is most important, I used lips slurs, some Flow Studies and chromatic scales. Don't make your emborchure smaller when you go higher, relax it and push air... LOTS Of air. make sure your throat is open, better air flow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fever_Euph_Beast Posted August 29, 2004 Share Posted August 29, 2004 hey dolfo. i've been told to just relax and use lots of air. and the best way to use more air is it work on lots and lots of pedal notes. if you had 4 valves you could do tons more. but it really helps a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCSeymour Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 If you ever get to DCA,finals or get to see the Renegades look up a guy called Pooh Bear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerpella Posted September 2, 2004 Share Posted September 2, 2004 hey dolfo. i've been told to just relax and use lots of air. and the best way to use more air is it work on lots and lots of pedal notes. if you had 4 valves you could do tons more. but it really helps a lot. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I must take exception to that. Whereas pedal tones develop very good flexibility and tone quality, it doesnt necessarily lead to high note ability which is more a matter of technique. I can lip trill from double C on down, hit a high G not even warmed up, yet I can barely do pedal tones on a bari bugle, mostly airballs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euph_Dolphin Posted September 4, 2004 Author Share Posted September 4, 2004 (edited) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I must take exception to that. Whereas pedal tones develop very good flexibility and tone quality, it doesnt necessarily lead to high note ability which is more a matter of technique. I can lip trill from double C on down, hit a high G not even warmed up, yet I can barely do pedal tones on a bari bugle, mostly airballs! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> thats about the opposite for me, i can belch the pedal tones, but crap at the high octave, can you give any exercises for lip trills Edited September 4, 2004 by Euph_Dolphin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow_7 Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I added about an octave to my range by picking up Soprano. Play that horn for a bit and you'll develope a high range. Although doing the same on bari with a full tone takes a bit more work. Back in the day, I attended a master class by Bill Watrous and he advocated warming up around what you wanted your center of range to be. In his case, it was a high G on trombone. Start there and work your way out from it on long tones. Playing low is great and all, but it never really did much for my upper register. One of my old private instructors who was a studio guy, taught me part of Bill Adams warmup routine. And we even attended a master class by Bill Adams, which changed my range attributes forever. Once you get past the psychological aspects preventing your use of the upper register it's really not that hard to play high. The Adams routine consisted of long tones around a center of pitch. Start on low C, go down one half step, then up two half steps, down three, up four, down five, etc. Once you run out of natural notes, take it up a partial and more of the same. Allow ample rest times in there to promote circulation. You're striving for a relaxed, clean, overtone rich tone on each note. It progresses into chromatics to smooth out the transitions between notes. And lip slurs and such. But you should get the gist of it. The old "how do you get to carnagie hall? practice practice practice." bit. Other range attributes can be accomplished by using a smaller mouthpiece. But even this has limits. It limits your tone and lower range. And doesn't really help you develope a high range, since you're not working the range muscles as much. I've also noticed that the longer the time between dental visits, the better my range gets. As best as I can figure, the anticeptic used during fillings and such damage the nerves used for my high range. But that's just speculation. Shadow_7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWEuph04 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Pedals and octave slurs... yup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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