MelloHorn13 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) Top 5 scores for DIV 3 2000-2005 (most similar sheets) GENERAL EFFECT 1. Seattle Cascades 00 36.5 2. Oregon Crusaders 04 36.2 Blue Stars 03 36.2 3. Blue Stars 02 36.1 4. Revolution 02 35.8 5. Raiders 05 35.6 GE VISUAL 1. Americanos 00 18.5 2. Cincinnati Glory 00 18.3 3. Seattle Cascades 00 18.2 4. Raiders 05 18.1 5. Blue Stars 02 17.9 General Butler Vegabonds 00 17.9 GE MUSIC 1. Blue Stars 03 18.8 2. Oregon Crusaders 04 18.4 3. Seattle Cascades 18.3 Revolution 03 18.3 4. Blue Stars 02 18.2 5. Yamato 03 18.1 VISUAL 1. Revolution 02 27.45 2. Blue Stars 01 26.90 3. Raiders 05 26.85 4. Blue Stars 02 26.60 5. Raiders 01 26.55 VISUAL PERFORMANCE 1. Capital Regiment 00 18.3 Revolution 02 18.3 Taipei Yuehfu 05 18.3 2. Blue Stars 01 18.1 3. Americanos 00 17.9 4. Cincinnati Glory 00 17.5 5. Raiders 05 17.4 Blue Stars 02 17.4 VISUAL ENSEMBLE 1. Raiders 05 18.3 2. Yamato 05 18.3 3. Blue Stars 01 18.1 Revolution 02 18.1 4. Seattle Cascades 00 18.0 5. Blue Stars 03 17.9 General Butler Vegabonds 00 17.9 Raiders 01 17.9 Blue Stars02 17.9 COLORGUARD (LVK 04 18.6) 1. Revolution 02 18.5 2. Raiders 05 18.1 3. Marion Glory Cadets 18.0 4. Blue Stars 02 17.9 5. Raiders 01 17.9 MUSIC 1. Revolution 02 27.25 2. Seattle Cascades 00 27.20 3. Blue Stars 02 27.15 4. Raiders 01 26.95 5. Blue Stars 01 26.75 Brass 1. Raiders 01 18.8 2. Blue Stars 01 18.7 Revolution 02 18.7 3. ECJ 01 18.5 4. Blue Stars 03 18.3 5. Americanos 01 18.2 MUSIC ENSEMBLE 1. Seattle Cascades 00 18.8 2. Blue Stars 02 18.1 3. Americanos 00 17.9 4. Raiders 01 17.7 5. Taipei Yeuhfu 05 17.6 PERCUSSION 1. Captial Regiment 00 19.2 2. Seattle Cascades 00 18.7 3. Americanos 00 18.6 4. Revolution 02 18.5 5. Cincinnati Glory 00 18.4 OVERALL 1. Revolution 02 90.50 2. Blue Stars 02 89.85 3. Seattle Cascades 00 89.70 4. Raiders 05 88.80 5. Blue Stars 03 88.60 OTHER Overall high scores pre-2000 Mandarins 99 - 93.7 Blue Stars 99 - 92.2 General Butler Vegabonds 89.3 Yamato 98 - 89.9 Phantom Legion 98 - 93.3 Mandarins 98 - 93.8 Mandarin 97 - 94.8 ECJ 97 - 94.4 Patriots - 93.8 Mandarins 96 - 94.0 Golden Lancers 96 - 90.7 Americanos 94 - 91.9 Blue Stars 94 - 91.8 Mandarins 94 - 90.8 Edited October 6, 2005 by MelloHorn13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGCpimpOtimp Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 (edited) *edit* wrong thread, got confused. Edited October 5, 2005 by MGCpimpOtimp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomR Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 so this is what you wanted me to help get you? It will be done sometime today... hopefully as soon as I get home. Try and get on around 4:15ish, and I'll get you that spreadsheet. ~>conner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaguardguy Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Awww, I was scrolling through your list and saw you made special mention of LVK04's last guard score. Thanks ! I didn't know anyone took enough notice of us that year to even remember that little tidbit. Here we are, coming off winning guard the year previous and now popping the highest DivIII colorguard score at DCI championships since the caption's inception, and no one notices. We were a gross, ticky mess (losing to guards we would've never imagined) all the way through Oklahoma City; and when we finally cleaned up, our start times were so early no one other than judges saw us perform. To top it off, the corps' overall 5th-place finish wasn't good enough to make Grand Finals and the guard caption instead went to a corps whose guard we had beaten all week (though we weren't alone, CoH's undefeated brassline suffered a similar fate). No hard feelings, we all knew the rules going in (though the caption-awarding system could use a revamping so that doesn't happen again). It was just an anti-climatic way to ageout and to likely finish off the corps' history :( . Again, thanks for the 'lil shout-out :D ! Which brings me to my next point about how you really can't compare scores from year-to-year (or even contest-to-contest). We all know that corps from 15 years ago would probably not fare as well today, even taking into account the different expectations called for on the sheets. As much as one might try to be as objective as possible in allocating points, judging in an activity like drum corps is inherently relative. Comparing scores from different years, though neat, isn't very informative. For example, I would never, ever, ever try to compare my colorguard to the likes of Revolution '02, or Cincinnati Glory/Marion Glory Cadets '00-'02. They were on a different level from anything we ever achieved, regardless of the way one might add up the points. In fact, I've been following DivII/III avidly (I almost typed rabidly, which is almost as fitting :sshh: ) since my first drum corps show, DivII/III Finals at College Park, MD in August of 2000. I'll go as far as to say that since 2000, Revolution '02 was by far the best DivIII drum corps put on the field. I wish there were more people on this board who remember that show, or at least have an extensive II/III video library. They had individual technique I haven't seen matched since, and their ensemble work was no slouch either. 2002 was an especially competitive year (remember how exciting DivII was with Magic, CapReg, Mandies, SCVC, Spartans, Esperanza, Patriots, and ECJ all putting out amazing shows), and I'll contest Revo's scores don't do them justice. Oh well, I have no way to substantiate this claim, so chalk it up to opinion if you'd like :) . Point is, it was fun to look at the numbers and recall some great II/III performances, but those numbers certainly don't tell any deeper stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelloHorn13 Posted October 5, 2005 Author Share Posted October 5, 2005 Which brings me to my next point about how you really can't compare scores from year-to-year (or even contest-to-contest). We all know that corps from 15 years ago would probably not fare as well today, even taking into account the different expectations called for on the sheets. As much as one might try to be as objective as possible in allocating points, judging in an activity like drum corps is inherently relative. Comparing scores from different years, though neat, isn't very informative. For example, I would never, ever, ever try to compare my colorguard to the likes of Revolution '02, or Cincinnati Glory/Marion Glory Cadets '00-'02. They were on a different level from anything we ever achieved, regardless of the way one might add up the points. In fact, I've been following DivII/III avidly (I almost typed rabidly, which is almost as fitting :sshh: ) since my first drum corps show, DivII/III Finals at College Park, MD in August of 2000. I'll go as far as to say that since 2000, Revolution '02 was by far the best DivIII drum corps put on the field. I wish there were more people on this board who remember that show, or at least have an extensive II/III video library. They had individual technique I haven't seen matched since, and their ensemble work was no slouch either. 2002 was an especially competitive year (remember how exciting DivII was with Magic, CapReg, Mandies, SCVC, Spartans, Esperanza, Patriots, and ECJ all putting out amazing shows), and I'll contest Revo's scores don't do them justice. Oh well, I have no way to substantiate this claim, so chalk it up to opinion if you'd like :) . Point is, it was fun to look at the numbers and recall some great II/III performances, but those numbers certainly don't tell any deeper stories. I was thinking the same thing when I was putting this together. At first I wanted to use the entire 2.3 hisroty to do top 5. But the sheets changed every 2-3 years. 2000-present sheets are similar, only change was the addition of Percussion Field and Percussion ensemble. Agreed, Revo has been the best DIV 3 since 00, with Canos 00 and Cascades 00 close behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumCorpsMom Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I'm kind of surprised that Patriots 2003 guard is not up there???? I couldn't find the recaps to confirm, but they were darn good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arno0940 Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I miss Academie Musicale....1995 was an amazing show!! And it won they a World Championship to boot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaguardguy Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 I'm kind of surprised that Patriots 2003 guard is not up there???? I couldn't find the recaps to confirm, but they were darn good! They were darn good, top-12 DivI quality. In fact, I'd say the only II/III guard since 2000 better than Pats03 would be Magic02; however, the reason you don't find them on this list is that they were DivII, and are on the corresponding DivII version of this thread. You will see them there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrumCorpsMom Posted October 6, 2005 Share Posted October 6, 2005 They were darn good, top-12 DivI quality. In fact, I'd say the only II/III guard since 2000 better than Pats03 would be Magic02; however, the reason you don't find them on this list is that they were DivII, and are on the corresponding DivII version of this thread. You will see them there! If you look at the top of the original post, it says Div 2. That was what I was looking at. I was thinking, wow, I can't believe that Magic isn't at the top.... what about ECJ & Spartans and Patriots. That explains everything! :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelloHorn13 Posted October 6, 2005 Author Share Posted October 6, 2005 If you look at the top of the original post, it says Div 2. That was what I was looking at. I was thinking, wow, I can't believe that Magic isn't at the top.... what about ECJ & Spartans and Patriots. That explains everything! :P Thanks for catching that.. I changed it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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