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Need to check that calculator. If attendance was down 100%, that means that no one came.

Its just you.

I agree - but why stop there? How about a cymbal judge? A bass drum judge? A 3rd Trumpet judge? We want to make sure everyone is "properly evaluated". I propose that we implement the judging system currently used in figure skating. They have a panel of 9 judges - each properly evaluating one individual skater. To use that ratio with a full 150 member corps, we would only need 1,350 judges per show. And that doesn't count GE.

The G6 met for the first time in 1975. They were the United States, West Germany, Britain, France, Italy and Japan. They became the G7 the following year when Canada joined in. Oh, Canada!

The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about. - Oscar Wilde It is often said that there is no such thing as bad publicity. A million people (and climbing) is a million people.

You have to assume that this statement is true so that the rest of your arguments can follow. This is the same fallacy of logic that is the philosophical underpinning of the G7 proposal. If that "given" is not actually true - or not true to the degree you assert - then none of the rest follows. The sky is not falling.

DCI has not denied any voting corps its right to vote. The seven are still inside and still members of the association. They are not outside. Any one of them can continue to make proposals and participate in the governance. DCI cannot continue to leave the seven inside - if the seven are going to continue to cause disruption, IMHO. Meaning that at some point this thing needs to come to a head. Either the 7 choose to go off and do their own thing or they decide to stay within DCI and work within the system. The state of affairs as it has been for the last few years cannot continue as is. (edits for clarity and spelling.)

I'd like to imagine a time when all corps acted together as a cooperative fraternity of the members for the good of all.

To delineate the Music in Motion schedule more precisely: YEA has run used the name "Music in Motion" on several shows in previous years. This July 7 show is one of those and is a normal tour event on the DCI tour. It is not really a part of this discussion. Quoting DCI's 2013 announcement: "Beginning on July 11 in Warrensburg, Mo., this event series will also make stops in DeKalb, Ill., Round Rock, Texas, Murfreesboro, Tenn., Charlotte, N.C., East Rutherford, N.J. and Buffalo N.Y." Read more: http://www.dci.org/news/view.cfm?news_id=32f8d801-9d97-4552-a057-ba808894d6f5#ixzz2DZUTNxnO I can't find where the name for this series has been announced yet. It is being referred to here on DCP as the "Music in Motion" series. These are the events that are being run by the Music in Motion Performing Arts corporation. There are actually 6 shows as this list is missing the July 11 show in Warrensburg, MO. I single out the Murfreesboro show because this one has been run by DCI as a top-8 event for many years. It is still listed on the schedule as a DCI Premier event.

If you are looking for something to DISLIKE about any given performance, corps, show or year, you can find it. If you are looking for something to LIKE about any given performance, corps, show or year, you can also find it. Either way, you are right. You are entitled to your opinions. But they probably do not line up with all of those around you. Just because you have opinions does not lead to the conclusion that we are experiencing the "Death of Corps". Besides, you are way too late. Drum corps died in 1971. Before DCI ever started. They made tee shirts and everything.

Contract labor would be a variable in any kind of comparison across organizations. You can not definitively tell if it is included or not. It all depends on how it is reported by the individual organizations.

It depends on who is filling out the form. Not every field on the IRS form is well defined. My experience has been that there is some variation in presentation and interpretation between preparers.

The numbers I am using are from 2011 which is the most recent year's data available. They come from this thread - YEA post #157 and #134 for total compensation and gross receipts, respectively; same data for DCI in post #39 and #10. I am trusting that you copied them correctly off of the 990's.

Didn't say it was fair. But at least it is real and fact based. To connect some dots here, there was a certain G7 proposal that made the assertion that the corps themselves were so much more efficient than DCI that the corps could come in, take over, fire 50% of the office and the functions and operations of DCI would continue on without missing a beat thus freeing up significant amounts of cash that could go straight to the 7 corps. That doesn't seem like a fair comparison either. And yet, corps managements are making activity altering desicions based on such assertions.

I have a feeling there is a lot more going on behind the scenes than anyone knows.