HockeyDad

My favorite is: they want to destroy the corps / they want the corps to fold. One need look no further than the screed of a statement from CAE as they exited the stage. A case study in victim blaming.

No, you don’t get it. That would be the definition of a NON sexual relationship.

“I had a sexual relationship with a person who was 20 when I was 15” were your words. But maybe there is nuance there that I just wouldn’t understand.

I didn’t understand there was nuance when talking about an adult having sex with a minor. 🤷‍♂️

Well, not all of us figured it out by age 30 apparently. Based on the post we are discussing

Wait. I thought she was biased against the Scouts. Haha everyone has a beef with her.

I don’t know about triggered. To me, more like…disgusted. Disturbed. Over the passage of decades since this happened (minor and not minor “relations” which you thought was cool at the time - correct me if I’m wrong, you deleted the post so I am going by memory) your thoughts about the appropriateness of this hasn’t changed? That’s what I find disturbing. Again though I could be misremembering your post so if I am…sorry.

I know my kids’ hockey trophies are doing a good job holding up the power cord to my treadmill in the basement just in case we get water down there. Otherwise their value may be $0.50 give or take.

DCI has a museum? Huh.

Hang tight, Jeff. Keith Hall did a poor job on the quote. Those were not his words. They were posted by someone responding to Terri. Keith quoted Terri but accidentally included the words below hers. I knew something was off because Keith appeared to be contradicting himself….until I went back several pages, found the post he quoted, and realized those were not his words. 😵‍💫

Haha. Or maybe only the first letter.

Are you talking about member/member when one is 18+ and the other is younger than 18? Are you talking about dating ? What is your question? Just a generic how do you stop a member from molesting another member? Anyway, I would hope there is frequent repetition to the message of a zero tolerance policy and that if you see something, say something. Versus a one-time view the anti-harassment video, roll your eyes and move on. You want to date, and one of you is a marching member and the other is a staff member? Not gonna happen, sorry. Not under our auspices. You have options. You don’t have to be in our drum corps. Life is full of choices.

Interesting. I did not consider the possibility that the lawsuit is being used by the board as cover / excuse for the Chapter 7 bankruptcy. Versus the board causing the failure.

That’s kind of a leap of logic, dating to sexual assault. Anyway, who cares what the law says if the corps instituted a strict no dating policy. No stating that I agree with it, just going with the straw man.

Fantastic!

Do you think it’s enough? How about implementing this policy: there shall be a minimum of TWO adults when in the presence of a sole minor. And, to the corps members, if you EVER come across one adult and one minor alone in private together, you are expected to report it to (insert the correct single point of contact) immediately. All persons will be assumed innocent but out an abundance of caution we will investigate every occurrence. I suppose many will consider this “too hard” to implement. Well, how important to you is the activity’s survival? Would you not take whatever measures are necessary? This is a solid policy that is used in many organizations.

If I recall, this idea has been floated before, and it’s been mocked and ridiculed. “You can’t deny the experience to the kids” etc.

Hmmm…. That line of reasoning did not pan out very well for the Catholic Church. You cannot tell me “nobody knew.” That’s just false on its face. I’m afraid DCI might be in significant trouble here. The “I was in charge but the rules didn’t make me do anything” defense is a loser.

Haha I just realized their goal is to raise $100k by the end of 2023. Classic.

You said the quiet part out loud. Troublemaker.

Quit moving the goal posts on me. First you said you don’t see anyone glamorizing. Now you say you don’t see anyone giving him a pass. You’re killing me.

Interesting word choice. So many possible responses.

I see comparisons to a tragic Shakespearean figure or a Greek tragedy to be glamorizing. Maybe that’s just me. I see a snake oil salesman who finally got caught.

As has been the case throughout history with many psychopaths, now that you mention it. Initially deified. But later demonized. Scary, isn’t it?

Let’s not over glamorize Hopkins. He ran a summer marching band. Brought in top talent who designed championship shows for him. Drove them away. Tanked the band. Assaulted girls and was convicted. Now he sets up tee times for you. A dickish loser with a psychopathic personality. Not worth anybody’s time of day.