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On behalf of all his Buglers Hall of Fame sisters and brothers, deepest condolences and respects are offered to the family of Bob Bellarosa, and to the several generations of drum corps marchers and fans who, largely due to his generosity and welcoming spirit, will always consider themselves his friends.

Oh yes, that was Jim Centorino all right! The '70s featured some iconic players (Kievit, Brady, Grass, Metzger...etc.), but for bugle soloists who could play with reckless abandon like that, after him they broke the mold.

The Long Island Sunrisers, formed in the early '50s, were named after a major traffic artery that ran from the Queens/Nassau County border, towards the newly settled suburbs in the hinterlands of eastern Long Island. Every morning, the construction workers looked directly into the dawn's early light as they continued their incremental progress on the Sunrise Highway. The Blue Devils were named for the most prominent geographical feature in Concord, a mountain the Spaniards called "Diablo". Regarding the Hellgaters (alma mater of Jack McGuinness and Charlie Aquilina, among other prominent icons), does anyone else find it ironic that the Immaculate Conception Parish elders approved that name for their corps?

Hi Donny. FYI, Dr. Jones holds a DM in Music and teaches at the University of Tennesee. Brother Frank

OK. Will do.

Contest prizes are in the mail! And Andy, I think you should start another thread devoted to "Pepe-isms" and other great drum corps quotes and sayings. What say you?

Official Answers: Boston Crusaders 64 Zing Went the Strings of My Heart Chicago Royal Airs 65 Watermenon Man St. Mary's Cardinals 65 Heatwave St. Kevin's 64 Charmaine Casper Troopers 70 Battle Hymn Blue Rock 71 American Salute Anaheim Kingsmen 71 Ritual Fire Dance (recording released in 72, so that yr also acceptable) Blue Stars 72 Malaga Madison Scouts 75 Slaughter on 10th Avenue Blue Devils 80 You Gotta Try North Star 79 Ole' 27th Lancers 81 Crown Imperial Santa Clara Vanguard 83 Giannini - Symphony No.3 Garfield Cadets 84 Maria No one achieved a "perfect" score in all captions, but 2 of our experts came within a spit valve and both got extra credit for some fascinating back story, so...duplicate prizes are awarded to: audiodb and Elphaba (Quote from famous drum corps personality: "What did you think about that tie, Pepe?" "Tie? Jeez, I had it closer than that!") Congratulations to you both. Please send me a PM indicating the address to which I should forward your copies of "State of the Art". Thanks to everyone who honored the recorded history by participating. 0 Official Answers: Boston Crusaders 64 Zing Went the Strings of My Heart Chicago Royal Airs 65 Watermenon Man St. Mary's Cardinals 65 Heatwave St. Kevin's 64 Charmaine Casper Troopers 70 Battle Hymn Blue Rock 71 American Salute Anaheim Kingsmen 71 Ritual Fire Dance (recording released in 72, so that yr also acceptable) Blue Stars 72 Malaga Madison Scouts 75 Slaughter on 10th Avenue Blue Devils 80 You Gotta Try North Star 79 Ole' 27th Lancers 81 Crown Imperial Santa Clara Vanguard 83 Giannini - Symphony No.3 Garfield Cadets 84 Maria No one achieved a "perfect" score in all captions, but 2 of our experts came within a spit valve and both got extra credit for some fascinating back story, so...duplicate prizes are awarded to: audiodb and Elphaba (Quote from famous drum corps personality: "What did you think about that tie, Pepe?" "Tie? Jeez, I had it closer than that!") Congratulations to you both. Please send me a PM indicating the address to which I should forward your copies of "State of the Art". Thanks to everyone who honored the recorded history by participating. 0

Official Answers: Boston Crusaders 64 Zing Went the Strings of My Heart Chicago Royal Airs 65 Watermenon Man St. Mary's Cardinals 65 Heatwave St. Kevin's 64 Charmaine Casper Troopers 70 Battle Hymn Blue Rock 71 American Salute Anaheim Kingsmen 71 Ritual Fire Dance (recording released in 72, so that yr also acceptable) Blue Stars 72 Malaga Madison Scouts 75 Slaughter on 10th Avenue Blue Devils 80 You Gotta Try North Star 79 Ole' 27th Lancers 81 Crown Imperial Santa Clara Vanguard 83 Giannini - Symphony No.3 Garfield Cadets 84 Maria No one achieved a "perfect" score in all captions, but 2 of our experts came within a spit valve and both got extra credit for some fascinating back story, so...duplicate prizes are awarded to: audiodb and Elphaba (Quote from famous drum corps personality: "What did you think about that tie, Pepe?" "Tie? Jeez, I had it closer than that!") Congratulations to you both. Please send me a PM indicating the address to which I should forward your copies of "State of the Art". Thanks to everyone who honored the recorded history by participating.

I know you mean Boston's "Zing...",(above). E, You are certainly privy to lots of insider information. Bonus points awarded acordingly. The Quincy Show is underway as I write this. Here's hoping it's as satisfying for the audience as these earlier performances were.

Audiodb is almost perfect, and also gets bonus points for the Anaheim back story. It's getting crowded at the top of this contest. We'll keep it open until after the show tomorrow night just to see if anyone gets "all 10's", so to speak. F

That is absolutely correct, Andy, and we will be sending you a special prize, a rare recording of the legendary Freehold Forward Observers' 1955 "Bermuda Triangle" field production, the first actual theme show, featuring: Where of When In a Mist (You Got Me) Goin' in Circles Lost in the Stars, and Where are You/Come Back to Me If you really want to solve the puzzle, here's a hint for the "older" crowd: team up with someone who doesn't yet have an AARP card. (You can easily ID the tunes up to 1975 or so, and they'll cover the rest.)

OK. In deference to the King of Drum Corps Radio (who could win this in a heartbeat), correct spelling is optional. Just get the corps, years and tunes. Eg; Our Lady of Most Precious Bingo - 1967 - ""What's-a-Matter-You?" The Beanmen - 1990 - "Get Behind Me - Part III" Cornbread Crackers - 1971 - "March of the Sweathogs" Easy, right?

I'll bet you can. And that was SOME soloist!

Even for someone relatively new to the activity, assembling this information is not as daunting as it might at first appear. There are clues everywhere. With a little research, anyone has a good shot. Go for it.

I should think the folks on this side of the DCP house might have a slight advantage here. After all, some of these pieces are "golden oldies". Of course, so are some of those very people (I can say this with authority, being a member of the Baby Geezer class), and we all know what happens to memory over time...what was the question? Still, enterprising youngbloods know how to do "searches" and all the info is out there, so this suggests some degree of parity, at least. Give it a shot. Spelling counts.

The Quincy, MA Show this Friday, July 1st, will be a tribute to the legendary CYO Nationals and so is the current installment of "Off the Record". The first person who can correctly identify, in order, the corps, year, and song title of the samples featured on the program will receive a copy of the CD "State of the Art", recorded by the Santa Clara Vanguard and Blue Devils at the Concord Pavilion, in 1980. (It was the first multi-track drum corps recording.) The sequence begins with the Boston Crusaders, 1964, "Zing, Went the Strings of My Heart". Post the rest below. Good luck!

The Quincy, MA Show this Friday, July 1st, will be a tribute to the legendary CYO Nationals and so is the current installment of "Off the Record". The first person who can correctly identify, in order, the corps, year, and song title of the samples featured on the program will receive a copy of the CD "State of the Art", recorded by the Santa Clara Vanguard and Blue Devils at the Concord Pavilion, in 1980. (It was the first multi-track drum corps recording.) The sequence begins with the Boston Crusaders, 1964, "Zing, Went the Strings of My Heart". Post the rest below. Good luck!

Hi Will. I recommend a book called "Xtreme Power and Endurance" which is based on bugle calls (British, French, Mexican and American). I compiled this a couple of years ago as a series of 20 etudes and variations that comprise just about everything one can do on a natural horn. It's available from Wayne Downey's company, www.xtremebrass.com

Scott Gordon, Ken Mason, Glenn Kubacki, the folks at Fleetwood Sounds, The Beat Goes On, Steve Vickers and everyone else involved in archiving our drum corps audio history are doing important work and deserve our support. These recordings are the literature of our activity and must be preserved. Legal process must be followed. This is not optional. I too have played on dozens of recordings but do not hold the copyrights for the music. Those belong to the composers and their assigns, and the right to copy the recordings themselves (to make "mechanical copies" of the music), having been granted to the labels (and their asigns) belong to them in turn. These people rightfully deserve to be compensated. This is as it should be. The composers for their efforts and vision which resulted in creating their intellectual property (not unlike a book or play), and the recording companies who bore the expense (and risk) of producing the recordings should rightfully derive some benefit. We as consumers enjoy the opportunity of hearing this music on demand, in turn. These principles have been in place for a hundred years in this country and never had anything whatsoever to do with how many pistons were on anyone's bugle. That said, there are some exceptions to copyright, but drum corps is not among them.

I competed in this contest but do not recall this incident. I will take the author's word for confirmation, however. A few months later I was in Army basic training at Fort Dix. In my opinion, the Viert Nam war was one of the biggest blunders our country ever made. We lost over 50,000 killed and accomplished virtually nothing. The war was also the single most detrimental factor in the decline of drum corps. The troops are worthy of the highset honor. The politicians bear the blame. All of that notwithstanding, the flag and country deserve respect no matter what. Those who acted counter to that brought dishonor to themselves. The veterans organizations were responsible for creating this activity that we all hold so dear. We owe them eternal thanks for that. I look forward to the day when that is once again made clear at every drum corps event.

The essential question has little to do with debating the pros and cons of the ACLU agenda or the fact that California's Proposition 13 undercut the tax base for education years ago, and is more properly focused on what effect this ruling may (or may not) have on our beloved drum and bugle corps activity, "N'est pas, Hastings?" As someone who has been a drum corps instructor since the Johnson administration and a "legitimate" high school and college music educator (note quotes), I would like to point out that today's high school bands now serve the very same population that local drum corps did many moons ago. At that time, many school marching band programs were so weak the hipper students interested in marching wouldn't be caught dead there and migrated to the corps. The band folks got the message, emulated drum corps, hired their people, and now do a better job generally than those local corps ever did and serve far more kids nationally to boot. If the bands decline again in a given region, an opportunity opens up for a well-organized fee-based local corps to provide a quality experience in their place. Nature abhors a vacuum, no?

Lance has submitted A-Level research in referencing my Buglers Hall of Fame brother Jari Villanueva, the world's foremost authority on US military bugle calls. In a couple of weeks a group of us will be attending his National Civil War Field Music School in Petersburg, VA. I'm not sure who qualifies as the most overrated corps of the 1860s, but I would suggest that the bugler from G Company of the 20th Maine is the undisputed I&E champ. It was he who played "Fix Bayonets" and the infantry "Charge" that drove the Rebs from Little Roundtop and changed the outcome of Gettysburg and, quite arguably, the rest of the war. His Bb clairon had none of those new-fangled valves, neither.

Will, Send me a PM. I'd be glad to help. Frank Dorritie