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As one who has done plenty on both TV and youtube, I actually agree with everything you just said. A look at Neilson ratings reveals that top TV shows get the kind of viewer numbers that used to be considered failure - while there are youtube videos all over that get the kind of view counts as the Superbowl. Internet video has taken over and even Vimeo and others do real well.

Yes, that is me doing the Kanstul demo - and thanks for the kind words. :)

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Yes, StarOrg. I was the full time lead trumpet player for Denver & The Mile High Orchestra for a little over 10 years. I have since 2013 stepped down from my full time spot with them to have a "real job with a real life" (got the job covered but not sure about the "life" part). Though no longer full time, I still do sub on occasions. I was on every album between 2003 and 2013 (my last album with them was the Hymns album).

I was a finalist on this show with a band called Denver & The Mile High Orchestra. This thread makes me giggle.

My prediction. Someone will win. People will complain about it.

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I completely get it. Furthermore, I see this as being nothing but a positive thing for both the Cadets' organization (YEA in general) and the DCA drum corps circuit. This is fantastic news! Welcome to DCA, Cadets2! I can't wait to see you on the field in Rochester! Is the plan to field Cadets2 this year or next (this question has probably been answered on either this thread or the YEA website but I have not had time to read it all).

Which is exactly how it was for YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS prior to 2003. Pretty simple, and quite fair in my opinion.

Music City Legend will be holding a FREE camp on April 30th (no $25 audition fee and no $50 camp fee) as we try to fill our remaining holes. There are open spots in ALL sections and we will be LEARNING DRILL! Come on out and join the fun with NO financial pressure. This is a ONE time offer ONLY! Camp will be held at Greenbrier High School in Greenbrier TN. Get further details at http://musiccitylegend.org See you on April 30th, Tornado

I absolutely DO know the feeling! I can't wait to see you on the field in 2012 in WHICHEVER corps you end up marching in with a snare on. Happy corps hunting. :)

"All age" means "all age" (or at least it should). I see no reason why you would not get a "FAIR chance" in ANY DCA drum corps no matter what your age. I think the main reason you are seeing a larger percentage of younger people participating in the DCA activity is because DCA is evolving and doing so very rapidly. This makes it more attractive to the younger prospects, especially ones who either want to gain some experience before going after a spot in their favorite DCI. corps or simply to have a lighter summer touring schedule. The only thing I might say is with the evolution of DCA coupled with the younger members participating, the prestige starts to become a little higher among the top corps and that is where it might tricky the older you might be (mostly in the top corps). However, I can go down the. list from Buccs down to the 10th place corps in Open Class finals - as well as all 4 Class A finalists and see a reasonable amount of 30+ people in each. When it comes to the top DCA corps, I think it all just depends on how good you are on your instrument and how good of physical shape you are in - not age. I know plenty of older people who are in. better physical shape than many teens. In fact, I am in better physical shape than I was as a teen (having changed much of my life style, work. ethic and diet in the last 3 years). And I don't even march (just teach). And MOST definitely, plenty of adults who are as good and MUCH BETTER musicians than the young (many of which are on a semi pro and pro level). Shameless plug time. Not sure where you live but Music City Legend (Nashville TN) just announced today that we are holding a "dues free weekend" on April 30th - May 1st. If available and close, come on out. I'll give ya a shot (if you are a horn player). :-) P.S. Please excuse the typos. I'm writing from the small keys of my VERY old school blackberry with buttons the size of a mustard seed.

Wow, you really missed the point if that's how you saw my post. I guess the fact that I was enjoying on my own merrit, DCI 1976 and that I also said I was looking forward to the DCA Alumni Spectacular was all a lie to push an "agenda"? WOW For cryin out loud. I was enjoying drum corps DVDs with my daughter. She had a request, and I granted it. No big deal really other than I found it interesting enough to want to share the story on DCP. But to say that I tried to be "coy by denying an agenda" is a ridiculous accusation that is completely unfounded. But, that's what I get for posting on DCP. I should have learned my lesson two years ago when I wisely chose not to post anymore. My bad. I'll go back to my silence. Have fun with this can of worms I apparently opened.

You took the words right out of my mouth. My daughter loves Blue Devils and Cavies from last year. The mirror thing for her was very simple to understand. While there might have been a deeper meaning implied below the surface, AT the surface she just saw it as a corps using mirrors to do something interesting and she loves it. As for Cavaliers, she may not get the hidden meaning there as well but was entertained by the effects used and loved that show as well.

Ok, well like I said - I've always been attracted to the old school (even though I've always loved the new stuff too). 1980 Finals was the first video I ever owned and I started marching at age 14 in 1988. So naturally, when I visited those videos during my marching years, I would always wish I could climb into a time machine and see those corps perform live. Now, I can climb into that time machine for several hours at the DCA Alumni Spectacular. One of my favorite shows to see each year. How that ties to this thread? Every generation of drum corps carries with it either people who miss the ole days or people who just wish they could witness the ole days. In the late 80s and early 90s, I could understand having "rabid discussions" over it all. Those who loved the old school - could seemingly never witness or experience it again. Those days were over and there weren't corps around that were keeping the old styles alive. All you had were recordings. That was the only possible memory of "what was". The closest thing there might have been at that time was the competitive DCA corps. But even that has never been far from the current DCI from a stylistic standpoint. Today, completely different. You have the ability to watch every type of drum corps imaginable... LIVE! If it's the old school you are most interested in, you can go to the DCA Alumni Spectacular and enjoy watching drum corps as you remember it (and even with the old corps themselves such as the Bridgemen, Toronto Optimists etc.). Or better yet, why just watch? You can even go MARCH with one of those corps and in most cases - don't even need to be a true alum of their corps. Always wished you could have marched with the Bridgemen but got into the activity too late? No problem! They would welcome you at their next camp and at ANY age. And not only that, but the way DCA's competitive activity has evolved, it's sort of forgiving to corps who perhaps have a little bit of 90s in them, even though their are corps like Buccs who are very current (and you do need to be fairly current it seems to be at the top of DCA Open Class). DCA is not only "all aged" but "all things" when it comes to drum corps. I sort of look at it this way. DCI is like the gourmet restaurant and DCA is like a good all you can eat buffet. So, this is why I sort os scratch my head when I see such rabid discussions from people wanting to have the "old school" back. It already existis. We live in a day when you can enjoy any type of drum corps you wish representing nearly every ERA of drum corps. Don't like the fine dinning gourmet dishes? Don't go to DCI Finals. All the more for those who love the "taste" of that. There is an all you can eat buffet at the DCA Championships each year where you can get the good ole fasion "fried chicken" of old drum corps at the Alumni Spectacular. And they even offer a few gourmet dishes as well if you stay late enough into the night of open class finals. So you can get a taste of both if you like. As for me, I love both. So, I will getting fat this summer as I attend hopefully about 3 DCI shows teach a DCA corps. :-)

I will start by saying I have over the last number of years grown very open minded to everything drum corps and marching arts related. I love the old school. Without it, we would not have the activity we have today. I love the modern too. Without progression, our activity makes no progress (master of the obvious, right). Yet, I know there are those out there that prefer one over the other. We all are entitled to that. However, when we argue sometimes so rabidly about it, I now have to ask (as of today), why do we argue? Afterall, who's DCI activity is it? DCI is for the kids, right? DCA has the Alumni exibitions for the old schoolers - I'll talk more about that on a later post (after this gets a few replies). what do the kids want? Well, I can't speak for all kids perhaps but I can tell you of a conversation I had with my 11 year old daughter today. I was enjoying some old Legacy DVDs from 1976 this afternoon (still love those years, always will). My daughter sat and watched with me kind of quietly until I hear "Dad?"..."Yes sweety?" I answered, "These shows don't tell a story like last years corps did, do they" she asked. "No, your right. They don't. Just marching and playing." She stayed quiet for about 60 more seconds until I asked the next question. "So which do you like better?" I asked. "Oh definitely the story telling corps, dad. Much more interesting. I really like that corps that did the horse show that you showed me (Crown 07). I really liked that "this is my rifle corps haha. Creepy but neat". I replied with a very simple "hmmm" and back to the video and watching quietly. Until the next corps came on. Once again I hear "Dad?"...."Yes sweety"..."Dad, um when this corps is done, can we watch last year's DVD"....to which I replied...."No sweety, we can watch that RIGHT NOW if you want". And the smile on both of our faces had to be priceless. What's my point? LOL! I don't know. Feel free to read into this post however you wish. I will simply watch and read your responses for a while. :) I have some ideas that I may share later. But for now. Post away. :-)

Interesting thread. :)

I can't even get my blackberry to space out my paragraphs. Grrrr....

When I first read Camel Lips' post, my first reaction (mainly because I know him) was. Now that I have gathered my composure.... I wish there was a recording out there of our semifinals performance (i.e., BD 93). It was our best performance of the year. Finals with all of the rain, delays from warm up to peformance (due to the weather) put us at a serious disadvantage and as a result, we did not have our strongest performance. Finals really did not do that show or that corps justice. Yeah, we placed higher in finals but truth be told, we didn't tie Star in brass in semis - we topped them (by just a one tenth microfraction). Quite an accomplishment considering how legendary the Star 93 hornline is (and deservingly so). One thing I'd like to point out (and I know this isn't screamer related but knowing Camel Lips and how much he likes jazz, he may appreciate this). If you listen to the swing section in our performance of Strawberry Soup (In particular the 8 piece ensemble in relation to the contras), you will notice (even in finals) how HARD we swung that section of the tune. That was a Dave Carico achievement. Something for which he stressed with us all year. That section was supposed to "swing", and he (and we) got it to do just that. Something for which you rarely hear "executed" in it's true definition on a drum corps field (even if I say so myself). For one, it's extremely difficult to do on the field due to staging. Secondly, it takes such dead on accurate timming and accuracy just to get an outdoor ensemble to play in time, the thought of getting it to lay back behind the bass voice and the percussion with swing articulations is so backwards from how we approach rhythmic accuracy in drum corps - most don't dare even try. Ok, my turn to get this back on topic and share who influenced me as a lead sop in this activity. Jerry Noonan - North Star 1980 Al Chez - Cadets 1980 John Meehan Blue Devils 1988-1989 Honorable mention goes to Jarrod Smeyers who played the faked sop solo (done by Al Chez) also known as "Jr." in the Cadets 1980 show. As one who started marching drum corps at age 14 (and at first didn't know he was faking it), he really inspired me to build my chops at a very young age. Scott (One of the 93 BD screamers) P.S. Please forgive any typos. I am posting from my old school blackberry with small buttons. Kind of a pain.

Excited to be back with the corps after a 2 year absense. Also very honored to be asked to assume the role as brass caption head. It's going to be an exciting season for MCL. We still have some holes in the hornline. Come on out on April 9th if you've been bitten by the late off-season drum corps bug. Details at http://musiccitylegend.com Scott

Yes sir - sure am. Heading up to the north eastern states with them Wednesday night through next weekend, in fact.

Thanks for posting, Fick! Glad you like it Jeffeory. You know? To bring some true topical relevance into this? I have to say that what I learned in Drum Corps single handedly prepared me for both my current music and acting careers There are SO many parallels between film and doing drum corps. Or making a musical album, and doing drum corps. I've not only worked on indie projects such as the above but also some big features - such as the recent release - Country Strong (very small background part). Just hearing the word "CUT!!! RESET!!!" (LOL) brings me right back to my drum corps days. A few years back I was also on the reality show "The Next Great American Band". Talk about another direct paralell. The rehearsals followed by waiting to find out the competitive results? For me, it was "been there done that" thanks to drum corps. Since Fick has posted this thread here, how about we drum corpsize this topic a little more and talk about how drum corps has paralleled what other drum corps people are doing now or along side drum corps. Whether you still march or are an alum, I'd love to hear how drum corps has prepared others for their current work, school life...whatever it is you do. Haven't posted in a LONG time - but read a lot. Kind of fun to get back into it a little. Though I hope I don't get TOO hooked. LOL