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  1. First about the apology. Accepted. From your list (which omits about 15 to 20 Drum Corps from New York City & Long Island) I picked the Mighty St. Joe's Of Bativa who I hope you meant. They had a great organization - mind you I only saw it from the outside and as a very young 14 year old. Aside from our sister corps St. Ignatius and the Mello Dears I don't think I recognize any of the others. Even from my time at St. Joseph Patron Cadets - who I know you didn't mean when you said St. Joes. Were those other corps around during the sixties / seventies? Or were they much later on
  2. So. Either that is a lot of fertilizer or a great answer to a fundamentally mundane question. Also WOW! Puppet
  3. Hey, not to mention Danny Thomas Invitational or the Heart Fund and even the CYO Nationals. And I'm not going to open up the VFW or American Legion can 'o worms. And OMG! There are only 20 Drum Corps left? There used to be that many in NYC alone! I thought that those Corps in the Championships every year, that they were at least the cream of the crop - you mean there is no crop? Wow! Puppet
  4. This and all posts aside, I don't know how far ahead of the curve we may have been but our director began shooting us at rehearsals as far back as 1970. Much like Football coaches did. You can even see a bit of our shows on the St. Rita's Brassmen homepage. I think the one being featured this month is our Color Pre and was shot on a home video cam (BETA) from the yesteryear of 1971. Check it out. http://www.stritasbrassmen.org/home.html Puppet
  5. Ahh, The Company Front OTL! When you did it right, there are no words. When you did it badly, oh the tick parade was not pretty! Do you notice however that there are virtually no pictures of really bad fronts? Like, shoot it now…no, now…wait …now, now,now! LOL Puppet
  6. Sorry but this is just the way my mind works and because of all the changes in Drum Corps today when I read "tenors" I thought "singers." Then I said "no way!" Imagine how big the rest of the chorus was? LOL Puppet
  7. Check this one out. 1964 Really Old School Cadet Style Uniforms! They Zipped Up The Back! This was their very first year on the field. Puppet
  8. It's so interesting that for the longest time I thought I was the only one who had fleeting thoughts of this nature. I typically take walks along a thoroughfare we call Commercial Boulevard here in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. On some nights I can hear what sounds like a drum corp off in the southern distance and see the glow of a football field and always think: Wouldn't it be cool if there were a class "B" type contest from the old days going on. But then I hear the horns and know instantly it's a High School Band. The image pops and then I go on my way … until the next time. Weird. Puppet
  9. And I was a 15 year old rookie in 1964 Sigh Puppet
  10. Ahh - if we forget the past - how's that go? That person's question would probably include "OTL" & "Exit" and that's kinda sad. Puppet
  11. Thank you guys. A picture says more than words sometimes. So here are two (I must have posted them somewhere before - the first was a typical rehearsal Friday night in the St. Rita Gym. And there's the Thursday Night Bingo we ran to raise operating expenses. And I agree: the education from learning and from teaching and from the responsibilities the Corps management placed on us to care for our own financial health was daunting but well worth it. And just another reason why I keep my teenage nickname of Puppet.
  12. Sorry Ray, but age may be getting the best of me. What did Bucky look like? Puppet
  13. please allow me this: Up front this is neither bashing DCI, DCA or any organization that currently causes my inbox to be filled with literally hundred of pre-season requests for money to enable youngsters to participate in what was once to me a source of pleasure, learning and personal growth. All things being equal, (which they are not!) I don't think the amount of time and energy put into today's product is equal to the sheer verve which the corps of my era displayed. The forced pageantry and beauty queen smiles of the now so called guards do not win me over. The short, seemingly one dimen
  14. here's a tidbit, though. Over 300 Corps over the years have played tunes by Leonard Bernstein. Mostly from West Side Story but oddly enough from the much better IMO musical Candide. Classical composers have also been highly represented: Beethoven and Gustav Mahler among them. We played Wagner's Ride of the Valkeries as an OTL in 1971 when we played only 7 songs but in 1969 we had a rep that was rife with all kinds of famous composers: Pagliacci by Ruggero Leoncavallo, Thunder and Blazes by J S Seredy. Billboard March (commonly known as "The Circus Song") by Klohr Chester Overture by
  15. OMG - Ok. 44 years ago this month I donned a cast off re-tailored St. Catherine Queensmen uniform as a french horn player in the Queenaires "class B" parade corps. Cream Cadet Style Jacket with Red and Black Trim. Black trousers (my first encounter with "braces" - I remember Norman Johnson our horn instructor and director saying: "Braces, these are braces, not suspenders!") with red and cream stripes. White bucks with black soles. I next wore the Powder Blue of the St. Joseph Patron Cadets - that was 1967. 1972 was my age out year. Danny Thomas Invitational, or World Open - I think we
  16. With three buses, we hardly ever had to, but there were some members like Sullivan from our rifle section who were just too tall to sleep sitting up! Hence… And I've got a ton of people sleeping on our trips. I must have been an insomniac! Puppet
  17. You're right on many levels, Mike. But I think the thinking at the time was perpetrated by the management of the individual corps. In our case, with so much strife over the Vietnam conflict and many of our members from the former St. Joseph Patron Cadets in uniform, there was a different mind set. When Hy and Carmen developed our Woodstock show for 1971 we juxtaposed the chaos and irreverence with The West Point Alma Mater as our CP and then played it as a reprise as our exit piece after having subdued "Those Who Would Attack Our Flag." Every audience at every show responded to that thing
  18. Oh I don't know. discontent seems to be such a strong word. IMHO I would first of all not blame it on the corps who in their naiveté joined DCI, but on the DCI Henchmen themselves. Their blatant disrespect for the all American activity as it was practiced at the time, combined with how much money running their own shows and hand picking those who would attend those show and thereby helping to line their pockets, along with how much more difficult it was to avoid the "unit penalties" mentioned earlier helped toward the demise of the Color Presentation. Puppet
  19. Not to put too fine a point on it, but I aged out in 1972. But I do recall that our Director, Carmen Cluna was at odds with the people of DCI as to the direction they wanted to go. He didn't see Drum Corps as a way for some over seeing body to make money off a young people's activity. He foresaw the time when Drum Corps would be populated by the wealthy kids and not the inner city youngsters of Corps like St. Rita's Brassmen. What do you know - he was right! Puppet
  20. OK - What is a "TOSP?" I'm keen to know. And as to Harlem Nocturne which version will we never hear again? The one's by these guys? Charlie Barnett, Les Brown, Larry Elgart, Les Brown, Duke Ellington, Woody Herman, Stan Kenton, Ray McKinley, Tito Puente. Which way is the right way? I always want to know more because to date I've only got these versions: Ernestine Anderson, Fascinating Ernestine, Mercury MG 20492/SR 60171 Georgie Auld, Manhattan with Strings, United Artists UAS 6068 Sil Austin, Great Sax, Sun CD Sid Bass, Big Piano, Big Band, Big Sound, Capitol ST-1625 Chuck Brown and
  21. This topic came to me from another thread. I began to wonder… For instance, in 1970 the CMCC Warriors played ten songs during their show. Blue Rock that same year had I think ten and the Boston Crusaders a whopping fourteen! Of course that's when shows were up to 12 minutes long. No wonder there were ambulances on stand by during July and August. We were exhausted! Puppet
  22. Contras wearing shakos… Looks quite natural to me Puppet
  23. OK - 1970 Battle Hymn Of The Republic. Or 1960 or '62 or '63 through '74. I'm thinking that they let it rest for a couple of years then brought it back in '81. And don't get me started on Ghost Riders All in all though, IMO the 1970 show was one of the finest ever. And I might add that 1970 could be the best year overall for Drum Corps Reps and shows ever. Another thread, don't you think Keith? And hey! Hooray! I just noticed: I'm no longer a Rookie! Puppet
  24. Jim - I'm so sorry I wasn't still there in '73. I certainly remember the Polish Falcons who had also come along way in a short time. But let me share this with whomever doubts that DCI or no DCI, The Brassmen had crested that year. Garfield was where? Puppet