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  1. We found that out in Dayton and Chicago in 1989, as we discussed in another topic. "You want to compete in DCA? Get in your car and drive." That hasn't changed.
  2. There's another option: The Midwest/south could organize its own circuit and championships. This has been done twice in the past, with the RCA and ICA circuits. The problem with those two attempts was that a very strong DCA existed at the same time. The east coast corps had their reputations already established, years ago. They were the corps to beat, if one had the product. Understanding that I have always competed out east (with ONE exception), DCA today isn't as strong as it was in those days.
  3. The most fun two corps in 7th place could have! πŸ™‚
  4. That was 1989 DCA finals and it was FUN! I wore one of Cru's Phantom of the Opera face masks! We were trading uniform parts, flags... what a good time that was! Then in 1990 at Cru's show, we tied again!
  5. 1990? We were in 8th place (SCA) Any drama up in the top box didn't apply to us. LOL!
  6. Flourishing? In what way? Chicago 1988 and 1989: there were more people at a soccer game next to where the DCA sanctioned senior drum corps show was being held. Dayton 1989: More people in the corps on the field, than fans in the stands. I don't think that's flourishing. I don't think that even showed a potential to "flourish". I think those shows were failures, in terms of exposure and revenue.
  7. 1989 Chicago show: There were more people attending a soccer game at the field next to where the drum corps show was.
  8. You with Westshore and me with Steel City, in 89. Steel City went to Chicago in 88, as well. Michigan in 90: Steel City and Minnesota Brass. Both Chicago shows were not well attended, Dayton was pitiful. Michigan show in 90 was alright....
  9. I know exactly what you mean and who put us in the stands that night. There's a tree at the Econolodge in Allentown with a scar on it, where a limb used to be. πŸ˜‰ I've calmed down considerably, since then.
  10. Ohio Brass Factory, Alliance Ohio. 1980 to 1983: Four years in a row, sitting in the stands eating hotdogs and watching DCA finals instead of competing. Four years in a row just south of 12th place. How do you convince your corps members that this is a good way to spend a weekend? The corps closed its doors after a 13th place finish in the 83 season. A corps that was very well funded and managed. A corps that was loaded with talented folks. A corps that might have opened the Midwest up to DCA competition, years ago. DCA was a hard nut to crack, in those days. Anyone from OBF that wanted to compete in DCA, went east. Yes, I was one of them.
  11. I tried to respond, but something went south on me.... I'll try again. stand by. πŸ™‚
  12. Why would a corps from New Jersey spend a truckload of money to travel to say.... Ohio or Georgia, to compete in a regular season contest? Why would they do this when traditionally, they've been able to have a full summer contest season and a championship finals right in their back yard? Is there a reason to spend that money? what are the benefits? If I was a corps director of an east coast DCA corps, those are the questions I'd be asking. Carpool 45 miles up or down I-95 to a contest, or charter two busses and go to Georgia for a contest that's held on a Sunday? I'm going to go out on a limb and say that they'd be going to the contest that's only 45 miles away.
  13. Deleted, because I felt my response was too far off topic. Carry on. πŸ™‚
  14. Doing alright, Fred. Staying close to home these days.
  15. Which was my location for 2019 finals, due to health issues.
  16. I've not been on here for quite a while, but I've been following the discussion on this topic. I must agree with and bring up something Fran said: DCA had it's own vibe. He's right. I remember some DCA corps would say (occasionally) "we think we're good enough to compete with the DCI corps". Were they? I don't think so... not in that decade and certainly not in this decade. In the 1980's, a DCA corps didn't look or perform like a DCI corps. There were subtle differences. I learned this fact in an interesting way, back when Star of Indiana was competing. Somebody from Steel City Ambassadors in 1987 was marching with Star the following season. At the Centerville show, I tried to say hello (and not thinking) I walked right up to him, when he was in the horn arc. I was stopped by another member who said (and I quote) "He's in rehearsal now". Her delivery was brief and I might add, mildly arrogant. I walked away and said to myself, "this isn't DCA". I was right, too. There was a difference. You may enjoy the DCI corps, but at a respectful distance. They are after all, the top of the drum corps game; the professionals. DCA on the other hand, was the weekend warriors; loads of talent that made it possible to stage a quality show, entertain the audience and do it on a somewhat smaller budget. The genie is out of the bottle and there's no going back. DCA looks more and more like DCI, every year. They still can't compete against DCI corps, but DCI is what the young folks know. In that regard, DCI has the recognized brand identity and the marketing to support it. Something was lost, in the transition to what some have called "DCI Lite". Maybe what was lost is what Fran was alluding to: The connection with the audience, the personalities and the entertainers... the casual approach to the activity. Knowing who and what we were and more importantly, why we were that way. Those days have passed. Fill the corps ranks with young folks, design shows that appeal to them, give them the "DCI lite" experience for far less money and hope they stick around long enough to carry DCA on their shoulders. Perhaps the most telling wake up call I faced was this: There are members of our local DCA corps who weren't born when I won a DCA championship in 1996. The folks I marched with can be found in three places, during finals weekend: The alumni corps, the stands or the judging panel. Those few hearty souls that may be found in the ranks of a competing corps, deserve an award (or free chiropractor services) one or the other. I don't know if DCA will be around in five years. I don't know what needs to be done (beyond a strong marketing effort), to increase attendance. All I know is if people aren't buying your product at the volume you need to see in order to grow your business, you ought to take a closer look at what you're trying to sell.
  17. Himbad, Pfunk, Big Irv, Hairbear. Collectively: "The Brothers"
  18. For the record: Terri is 100% correct, Big W. Please... give the credit where and to whom it is due. That is to the Director, his management team, Nick and his team, Tim Snyder for his arranging skills and I might add: several donors who made it all possible. My part in their success is smaller than the period at the end of this sentence. I'd appreciate putting this to rest, now. Thank you.
  19. I rarely post here anymore and am surprised to hear my name mentioned. (well, my nickname) Big W, don't assume that I have (or had) so much influence and input in C.T.'s success. While it's true that I performed a particular task, that task was accomplished several seasons ago. If any accolades are due, they should rightfully go to Nick Angelis and his team. This is an entirely revamped organization, well managed and taught by a stellar staff. My current duties within this framework are as follows: Paint stuff. fix stuff. deliver stuff. pick up stuff. If I'm not doing that, I can usually be found sitting on the sidelines, where I belong. :)
  20. Prelims before the birds are chirping, after an all night bus ride and a run through in a parking lot, circa 1983. :)
  21. As a public service: (humor implied and hopefully recognized as such) Some folks not from here, will occasionally get the spelling wrong. It's all those N's and I's that make it difficult. "Cincinnati". That's how to spell our fair city's name. Follow Cincinnati with Chili and you're as close to nirvana as you'll get! For reasons that escape me, we see more Pittsburgh "Terrible Towels" here in town, than we see Bengal tiger stripes, but that's another story. Just have a 5 way and a cheese coney and enjoy our riverfront. It's been said that you need a passport to travel from the eastside to the westside, the dividing line being located halfway around the I-275 loop. If Cincinnati is just too cumbersome to employ in a conversation, here's the generally accepted alternative: "Cincy", which is considered polite slang. A cooler version is "The Nati". The correct abbreviation is as follows: "Cinti". If you book a flight to Cincinnati, you'll land at the Greater Cincinnati Airport, which is located in Kentucky. (don't ask) We know who we are. :)
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