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Definitely not a lack of talent, but there were 53 rookies in the brassline. That’s a LOT of rookies. One reason why I think they will fare better is that the extremely young corps had a great experience, hopefully that combined with the Dallas auditions, low camp fees, and West Coast tour will draw the members they need. And the entirely new design team will now have had a year under their belts, and ornaments anyone knows how to incorporate vocalists it’s them. Maybe a little less of them would be good, but the original score was good and if judge’s react positively from the beginning, they hopefull won’t have to add the unnecessary cheese. I’m not thinking medals, but a placement or two up could happen.

https://yea.org/news/1791-cadets-announce-west-coast-tour-for-2018

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And I respect that. :)

Okay! I hear you loud and clear. I've simply heard a lot of things this season to make me question what has been performed live and what hasn't. The Boston Crusaders put on an incredible performance every night, and they have my total respect. Not trying to be a troll, and no I don't believe the world is flat... If no one questioned things on here, what would be the point of this forum? I still don't understand why I shouldn't ask. It really doesn't LOOK like she was singing fully, but that doesn't mean she wasn't. Again, people saying something was performed live doesn't mean it was unaltered as well. AND just because she could sing it doesn't mean she was every night, I said in my original post I was very sure it was her. The video also wasn't easy to find, I tried googling other sources but no one seemed to be talking about it. If she was singing live, unaltered every night then she was simply amazing, and I can handle that. No hate from me. And even if it was a recording it's dang good haha Sorry for all those I've upset. I didn't mean to stir up trouble, and I still have some unanswered questions, but I figure this is a topic I should just keep to myself. Thanks for responding, @Liahona .

That'd be awesome. It could be an in-between... something like the Cascades singer who sung live, but through filters. That however, is almost impossible to know for sure so it's not really worth discussing.

It's pretty borderline. Usually pre-recorded singing is played one phrase at a time rather than all at once, or she is just very good. I'd just really like some confirmation either way.

Well they certainly didn't give her advice on breath support haha. Do you think she's singing live?

8:30... that girl's barely breathing haha

I would like to say that the singer at Boston is amazing, and congrats to a VERY successful year for them. However, I would suggest that anyone A) watch multiple videos of Boston's ballad (I did, one from Jupiter, Florida and Finals at the same time) B) watch the multi cam of Boston's ballad I highly, highly doubt that girl is singing live. I think it's her, but I don't think she sang that in a show for a while. She does not look like a girl who is singing in that video, she looks like she is acting and mouthing. If she singing, I am extremely impressed and hats off to her! If anyone could prove me wrong that would be awesome. (Yes, she was singing live at Concert in the Park and someone came to teach her about expression... that doesn't contradict what I've said.) Seriously... prove me wrong! I WANT to be proven wrong. Thank you in advance.

And three vocalists... if it matters.

haha this is honestly really funny at this point

You literally told young adults not to be proud... please explain how that's not negative? Lol

.... that really sucks, because they're proud anyway, and luckily for them there's nothing someone on the internet who I'm guessing was totally uninvolved can do about it. The Cadets goal was and always is to be the best that they could be, and for such a young corps, they were. They also put on a memorable performance that sets them up extremely well for next year. If any other corps had ~65% of their brass age out, 7/10 pit rookies, and had new brass staff, arrangers, percussion staff, and visual team, I get the feeling they might take a small hit. This year was a year of renewal... hopefully this year will be the first in several years that they can climb back to the Cadet excellence that satisfies the masses. And what good does it to them to not be proud? Who are you to say?

My mistake entirely, I apologize. He was a two year vet... in fact, I should've picked that up when I read the post as well! Sorry!

Prediction: less singing overall, but another (better) Cadet vocal ensemble. This past year, there were about 25 that showed up to audition, and they were wonderful! However, next year, I get a strong feeling it could be an extremely competitive section if it returns.

"This is for all my drum corps friends and family, as I feel it's important to address what my summer away from home has meant to me this year... so here goes! Cadets 2017 This summer was a year of renewal. A year to rebuild from the ashes and find what it means to be a Cadet again. Many of us who returned for our second season may not have even found it to begin with... hell, I don't think I truly understood... but I was determined to figure out what I missed before returning home this time around. I entered the season with the hopes of regaining competitive success. Between the staff changes and new show design, I couldn't help but remain hopeful. I wanted to prove to the world that the Cadets were a group of fighters that weren't going to just sit down and take 6th place. If I'm being honest, finishing where we did last year stung a lot. Having been inspired by such fantastic Cadet years such as 2011 and 2013, I couldn't help feel disappointed... like I wasn't upholding the rich Cadet legacy I grew up loving. So as the season pressed on, we moved in for spring training and the excitement began to build... the first few videos were recorded and members' faces lit up with excitement watching and listening to the show for the first few times... it seemed that last year was simply a fluke. THIS year, we were back, and the DCI community wasn't going to be ready for it. So we pushed harder and harder until our first show came around, aaaannnndddddd We scored low. Members were in disbelief... thinking "how could this happen... this show is amazing!" Others rationalized what happened by saying "oh it's just a carry-over of last year... give it a few shows and we'll be right back up there!"... Many were experiencing deja vu from 2016... all the work and all the excitement led up to a competitive disappointment at the first show. So the weeks went by... we added changes to the show with hopes of bumping our score up.... We learned a new ending that was eventually scratched and never used... we restaged one of our production 3 times... to no avail. The scores remained where they did. At the Atlanta regional, we added our "finals ending" to our show and were one of only two groups to receive a standing ovation long before the show was even over. Surely we must do better!... Same placement. Even until DCI finals a few days ago, our placement didn't change, and we as the 2017 Cadets have to live with the fact that we finished in 7th place. Meanwhile, amidst all the work and changes we put in throughout the summer, I received constant text messages from family, friends in other corps, and friends back home asking me what's going on with the scores... I felt the Cadets were beginning to become the laughing stock of DCI... the kid that the bullies at school love to pick on because he can't fight for himself... but I know #### well that he used to be the heavy-weight champion of the world. Now, while I would absolutely love for the Cadets to be the world champions again, I also recognize simply being the heavy-weight champion does not entitle you to the belt forever... The Cadets embody the work ethic it takes to get to the top... not the glamour of being at the top. So while it may be easy to poke fun at the Cadets in recent times, let me tell you some unchanging and undeniable truths about Holy Name: Cadets will never stop working because of a score. Cadets will never succumb to an outsider's opinion. Cadets will always get back up the next day. Cadets will always push harder when there is no hope in sight. There comes a point where one may believe we border on the brink of insanity... doing the same thing over and over again, while expecting different results. To this, I simply ask if you've TRULY worked hard enough and committed yourself so whole-heartedly to an idea that you cannot give anything more. THAT is what the Cadets are about... not mindlessly working hard, but working hard with a devout passion and purpose. It takes a lot of courage to have faith in something that is not a guaranteed success... and it's even harder to find 150 people embodying this same belief... That is what makes the Cadets so special. So regardless of the scores, this is what I thought of our 2017 season This 2017 Cadets drumline had an absolutely incredible summer. I've never been in a drumline that played together and loved each other as much as this one. Each one of you has a special place in my heart and what we achieved over the last two weeks was pretty ridiculous... I'm gonna miss you guys. This brassline was collectively the hardest working group of people I've ever seen before. I have a lot of admiration and respect for the unconditional work they put out this season. Although they were majority rookies, these cadets have b*lls. Period. Be on the watch for these guys next year. They aren't going anywhere. I have no regrets marching my past two summers with the Cadets. Regardless of what people believe I should or should not do, my faith in Holy Name has not run out. I am a Cadet. For Holy Name shall ALWAYS be. To my Cadet brothers and sisters, I'll see you in November. Rest easy until then... 2018's gonna need it." 2016-17 (and beyond?) Snare The 2018 Cadets are coming to play... the love each other and the staff, and this is the attitude a vast majority of the Cadets have. I have a good feeling.

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Yes it's new! It's supposed to represent being "late to Mass" and is also a small throwback to 1985.

Cadets come in 5th

I agree... people saying non religious members didn't enjoy performing this show are wrong 100%. It's not a show about Jesus (despite the thousands of crosses) just like Bernstein's MASS isn't, it is a show about faith!

Last year, The had 45 brass ageouts, McNutt, and Gino. This year, they have 12 brass ageouts and a design team that has never worked together. The fact that they only fell one placement (most likely) is honestly impressive... if they had a crap design this year would've been much worse. GOOD momentum for next year!