scheherazadesghost

They're referring to WGI's judging system rubric that originally had 5 categories of achievement, now has six. See here: https://wgi.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/11/2023_WGI_CG_Ind-World-GE_Scoresheet.pdf

One of the most steadfast holdovers from our military roots. As an instructor, cleaning was always my favorite part of the job!

Truth. whimpers in Pathways

Are the other areas of assessment approached so differently between judges? This seems to only add to the subjectivity and therefore variance and fallibility.

I'm gathering the real rift here is between folks who 1) think mood and feelings can be concretely objectified, and 2) think mood and feelings are subjective and in the eye of the beholder and therefore impossible to quantify. Not a novel observation, but what I'm gathering nonetheless. How would we know who "won" without scoring? Again, anyone who was positively affected by the art process or product technically won.

Can't wait to see tonight's half-devils-food-cake-half-angels-food-cake recipe soon! Just save me a slice of the latter please! 🍰

An excellent exercise, which I will happily leave to folks who were there and/or who care to dissect such things. I'd love to know!

Please Troop. Please. That soundtrack is KILLER!!

Ah, ty for explaining further. Love hearing about your college experience too. Wish there was more, direct interplay between the two worlds honestly. I'm mainly challenging a paradigm, as I'm wont to do. I also appreciate the respectful exchange. 👏🏽

I get it. And it's okay to disagree with paradigms, right? I simply don't think competition drives creative excellence, and never have. Everyone here that disagrees with me would be wasting their breath attempting to convince me otherwise. In fact, I think it held back the shows during the years I marched. Staff were too constantly driven by the numbers to recall that we were young, fragile humans with reasonable limitations. I've listened to a current corps director reflect on the covid year season quite lovingly, for the fact that there was no competition. Wish I could've been there. Genuine freedom from the shackles of competition. Surely a sight to behold in the drum corps world.

And what a noble attempt at is. Still, it's an impossible task to me. Others have hinted at subjectivity here and I agree. Such attempts are what push drum corps toward the sport category, which I think is silly. It's an artform to me, and ranking in the arts will always be major sillypants to me. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Double indeed. In my decades of work in the arts after drum corps though, rubrics, even ones I helped construct were meant to serve the system first, not necessarily the one being assessed first. Guess I'll always just wish the artform could exist without it. That's where creative freedom lies for me, and what I was taught to value at SCV. That profound intangible.

GE is the strangest thing to assign a number to in the whole judging paradigm IMHO because it's so delightfully intangible. It's all strange, but especially GE. That said, I'm always down for an impossible task for the fun of it. I just don't take it that seriously.

Might be my favorite uniforms ever. They looked like they had just walked off a movie set. Even I had a strong reaction waking past them in person! That's not common for me.

Naw, no matter the context, that sentiment is gross working with young people. Minors or not. Context doesn't make it better or worse. But I guess to be "fair," it seems plenty of people like young people in tight revealing costumes so....

Seconding. That's gross.

It could be argued that the difference in attire btw drum corps/colorguard and scholastic sports is that said sports get dangerous or less efficient with more covering. Many of those sports are also now under the jurisdiction of stronger safeguarding protocols of the US Center for SafeSport. That's not the case here. Tight or revealing costuming is not necessary. And the closest approximation to drum corps, youth dance, already has best practices with costuming provided by orgs like YPAD. Such best practices further the notion that, in educational settings, modesty is best as it can be difficult for minors and young people to give full informed consent about revealing costuming. Take the educational component out and have at it, I guess. We're pretty dang close to the years' old thread on this forum asking why not just have nudity. Gross. These are young people, a vulnerable population even if adult. The other sports mentioned also have safeguarding problems and I'm positive that attire is a liability therein too. It's weird reflecting back on one of the costumes I wore as it was one of the first that put the a whole section in mid drifts. Nothing left to the imagination. Kinda grosses to me now.

What a cool goal to go after.

Meh, they were young last season as far as I know. Seasons are tough on young bodies. If you've made SCV's line and have a few years left, one season isn't gonna break you and may actually save you from the worst of injuries. Further, if you've connected with a caption head that takes good care of you and don't want to risk getting to know another one who may not be as good, more power to you. And this is all just word on the street. I could be wrong. Bingo. And those who mismanaged are still large and in-charge. All I'll say about it in this thread.

What a sweet idea. A tennis, lacrosse, golf or lint ball is also great for feet or rolling out muscles in the back or legs. Maybe even a travel size foam roller. Or a wrap around neck pillow. I'm tempted to say Tiger Balm or BioFreeze, but that might be a liability. Those got me through tour! Febreeze for bad smells. Washing detergent sheets, which are lightweight, for laundry days. Perhaps a serge protector? Or just letters of encouragement with stories from when you marched. Wish I could've been involved with my corps' care package process this season. 😪

It's reading really well remotely too. Just saw the first complete production and WOW just WOW! Feed a little more Wheaties to the two guard with solo rifle tosses and I am set. Whatever they're giving the trombone quartet will do! Love a show that demonstrates a voluntary slide from grace into sin.

Squee! I want this so bad for Mandies. 🤪

Yes, despite far too much ardure. My pride is through the roof. 😎

Ah yes, our champions. 🫶🏽

Word on the street is they scattered fairly evenly, with only small clumps going to specific corps together. Heard that much of the drumline is sitting this season out, waiting for a return in 24 so they can stick with the Rennicks.

Meh, that's assuming one needs numbers to assign value. I stopped needing that when I learned about the judging systems in high school. The creative process and product outside of these systems are inherently valuable and delightfully intangible. Numbers and judges sully that for me.