JimF-LowBari

LMAO, it changes names every few years. I had to ask my wife if that was the current name. Problably a good 5 minute stagger from the back parking lot to our door. :mmm:

Gene is that the Radisson in Camp Hill (across the big bad Susquehanna :P ). If anyone is staying there let me know as our house is only a few blocks away. :) b**bs ^0^ or is it :sshh: ^0^

New this year for Hanover Lancers is "Moorside March" which also fit in our St Patrick Day parades. More lively than "Danny Boy". The standards are "Battle Hymn", played a lot for Memorial Day and 4th of July, "Crown Imperial" plus our corps theme song of "You'll Never Walk Alone". Also Man of La Mancha/Impossible Dream when the parades aren't too long. (MoLM is a chops buster.) We also have other tunes for stand stills

Ditto... More I think about the comic book version I saw, the more I remember. There was also a one or two page bit about how Championship corps seem to be moving west. Started with Blessed Sac and Boston, then Madison and Cavies, currently (at the time) BD and SCV. Last picture was a Don Martin (MAD magazine) drawing of a bunch of guys in grass skirts and the caption was (kinda). "If this keeps up the Champ in 20 years will be the Pago Pago Islanders"...... When I get a chance I'll ask NanciD if she has the early 70s DCNs. I've been following her DC history blog but she is still working on 1962. Hope to see her at the Harrisburg Forum Saturday. http://historical-drum-corps-publications.blogspot.com/

Yep that's the story and serializing it in 73-74 would sound right as I didn't get my DCN subscription until 75 or 76. Just remembered the story of the future was being told to a guy in our present. Man from the future was wearing a hood so you couldn't see his face. Turned out the "future guy" was responsible for the changes that lead to the riot/upheaval/wtc. Big shock ending was finding out the future guy and present guy were the same man. "Gasp - why are you telling me this??" "Because.... I am you!!!" Wow, how many times did I see this on Twilight Zone :P

Wow, I'll say it's an early Conn. Horn has a hole where the thumbscrew for the valve lock should go. Jeff, how can a person tell what key older horns are in? Is it just knowing what the different manufacturers made certain years?

Is the Holton on eBay Bb-F??? I don't know enough about one valvers (but I'm trying) to know which horns were in which key. Only Canadian horn maker I know of was Whaley-Royce of Toronto but guessing they made the usual Canadian "Bugle Band" horns.

Full range of notes on the chromatic scale - Off the top of my head Ab is 2/3 and one or two other notes not possible on 2 valves. Think this is the chart I used when I got my first 3 valver. (but my Adobe reader recently got clobbered so I can't look at it.) http://www.dynastyband.com/graphics/buglefingerchart.pdf

Westshores DM had one on each shoulder during retreat. Knew the guy so all I wanted to see if any of the feather rats crapped on his back. Classic souvie next year was a hooded sweatshirt with a dove drawing on the shoulder.

:P But seeing Chief Judge Walt Kelly shooting his starters pistol to no effect was a classic. Looked like Moses trying to part the dove sea. ^0^ Heard a story about a pro sports team (Atlanta Falcons?) who tried this. Trained a bird to fly off the handlers arm, fly a few circles and come back. Trained bird was found and practiced in the (empty) stadium and it looked good. Pregame show of the first game of the season (first season maybe) the bird hears all the noise in the (now full) stadium and figured <bleep> this. Bird was released and was never seen again. And there's the handler at the 50 yard line looking like

Not sure when it was serialized but saw the complete comic when my bus buddy bought it. That should have been between 1977-1979. Miss DCN too, have an old guitar case with a "Ask Me I Read Drum Corps News" sticker on it. Think the sticker was a freebie for renewing. If I ever sell the guitar the case will have a hole 'cause I'm keeping the sticker.

Story from DCW which gets streamed to subscribers data port located in the back of their head <$1 to Johnny Mneumonic I think>. "Split in DCI BoD on Clone Age Out Rule" Biggest battle of the year in the BoD concerns when the clones should be "Aged Out". Some feel the clones 22nd birthday should be the same as the 22nd B-day of the person the original cells came from. Yet others feel that the clones 22nd birthday should be 22 years AFTER the cloning occurred. Proponents of the "original person" concept suffered a setback when they reaized there was a loophole in their proposal. The proposal was withdrawn because it did not cover when the person who was cloned passed away. IOW that person would never reach their 22nd birthday. Yeah, spent too many years watching SciFi movies and reading Marvel comics "alternate universes" issues.

OK, thanks...... Got a big smile on my face right now as I was a Unix system admin and remember fighting with people over disk space, etc, etc... Smiling 'cause I'm #### glad I'm not responsible for this site. :) :) :) :) :) :)

No disrespect even taken, didn't realize you "got" it. B)

Is size the only criteria George? That would make sense why the posts I'm looking for are missing yet some of the old threads I started are still there. (See a few history threads I need to save off.)

Had the same thing in Senior corps before DCA became the only circuit left. Wierd to think that in 1985 two future DCA Champs were performing in the ICA (Small Sr) circuit. Westshoremen were rebuilding and Empire Statesmen were just starting off that year.

Yeh, I'd better start saving off good info.... And saving THAT info for the next time the hard drive goes *poof*....

In the past few days some threads have touched on why so many corps went down the tubes during the 1960s. I know this has been covered a few times in DCP and RAMD as I usually open my fat yap during these discussions. Thought it would be a good idea to post links to these threads as a reference when we discuss why corps have gone under. Only one problem with this idea....... I CAN'T FIND THE FREAKIN' THREADS!!! Searched DCP under a few phrases that I know I used and none of the titles look right. (I'll check more when I get a chance.) Can't remember if this was before we went to the new server and some stuff went bye bye....... Also checked RAMD and found threads that were basically useless for any historical reference. One problem is some RAMD folks choose not to archive their posts and it really mugs up trying to follow a discussion. Other problem is a person there who needs help in dealing with things (all I'll say)..... If anyone can help with this please post and I promise to save the links this time..... :(

That's my age speaking Carl.... When I joined in 1974, people who marched earlier were griping about the changes made in the 70s. Fast forward 30 years and olde phartes (including me with some things) are griping about todays changes. (And people grumbled, griped and B-worded the 30 years in between.) Kinda doubt human nature will change that much in 20 years. :P Hope folks who have been around for a while got the "in joke", but I should have explained for the younger set. And I remembered a little more about that comic book. Might have been a Don(?) Draper product. Somewhere I saw a picture drawing of the author and the front of the comic is in the background. Oh yeah, the riot occurred when a (non-emotional) Android corps beat an All Star (emotional) human corps. In the story, folks forgot about emotional shows until they heard one again and they just wigged out. Name of the human corps was "ManCorps".... Yeah, I remember that and forgot my work badge this morning. :(

I know, I'll go back and throw in some :P s....... Back in the late 1970s either DCN or DCW came up with a few ideas of corps future. It was a comic book (honest) with some really wild stories in it. Wish I would have bought a copy. All I can remember is.... Corps hiring professional performers. And then trading them like MLB and the NFL.... I'll give you two bass drummers for a lead sop. No judges, computerized radar systems check for drill errors (written during the tic era) The professional marchers were fired and replaced with androids. This led to unemotional shows and a riot when <can't remember full story>.......

The old phartes will be saying : "THAT AIN'T DRUM CORPS!!!" Well except for MikeD :P :P

Allee and Dave, please keep us posted on what's going on with the Muchachos. Looks like a good group of people in a beautiful state. Spent a weeks vacation in the Portsmouth area last year and wouldn't mind staying. Thought the Muchachos were called an Alumni corps a few years ago. Did they drop Alumni and just change it to Senior corps? Wondering because I know of two other corps who dropped the Alumni tag.

Yes to both fun and hard.... Get ready to start ripping out hair when you get to anything before 1970. At that point you are at the mercy of what ever info is still around and how well (and how many times) that info has been copied. IMO, a good starting point for internet references on the Sr side are the sites I mentioned a few pages back. Also a nice lady :) has started posting her DC News articles on a blog site. She started with the oldest articles and is still "only" in 1962 which was a whole different world DC wise.

Best thing I've seen today. :) My next thought is what kind of corps Div I/II/III or other type were they when they started and what kind are they today. From the names I've seen on this thread it seems like a lot of the new corps are starting out small as a way to endure long term survival.

Knowing how hard it is research DC history feel free to come up with your own list. IMO, knowing Brians reputation I'm willing to bet it's the best he could do with whatever documentation was available.