Current Division II/III Standings for Finals....

[MiniSopGuy]

Can someone explain to me why some shows recognize the corps as Div II or III but mix them together to determine placement while other, seems like most, shows keep them completely separated for placement?

[ActualMarchingMember]

Despite all the missing judges at last night's shows:

1. Spartans 89.65 (Div. II)

2. Jersey Surf 89.60 (Div. II)

3. Memphis Sound 86.45 (Div. III)

4. Blue Devils B 85.25 (Div. II)

5. Vanguard Cadets 82.35 (Div. II)

6. Fever 82.15 (Div. III)

7 (tie). Revolution 82.05 (Div. III)

7 (tie). Teal Sound 82.05 (Div. II)

9. Raiders 81.25 (Div. II)

10. Dutch Boy 80.75 (Div. III)

11. Oregon Crusaders 76.75 (Div. III)

12. Citations 76.05 (Div. III)

Obviously this will change slightly after the OR show tonight, but it's all good. :)

Edited July 31, 2007 by ActualMarchingMember

[Teal_Euph88]

Div II

1. Spartans 89.65 +3.05 7/30

2. Jersey Surf 89.60 -0.65 7/30

3. Blue Devils B 85.25 -0.50 7/30

4. Vanguard Cadets 82.35 -1.10 7/30

5. Teal Sound 82.05 +7.65 7/30

6. Raiders 81.25 +2.20 7/30

7. Colt Cadets 74.65 -0.05 7/28

Div III

1. Memphis Sound 86.45 +2.20 7/30

2. Fever 82.15 -1.90 7/30

3. Revolution 82.05 +1.35 7/30

4. Dutch Boy 80.75 +5.05 7/30

5. Oregon Crusaders 76.75 +1.50 7/30

6. Citations 76.05 +0.80 7/30

7. Capital Sound 74.45 +1.70 7/28

8. Spokane Thunder 73.20 +1.55 7/30

9. 7th Regiment 71.65 +2.05 7/21

10. Impulse (D3) 68.10 +2.15 7/15

11. H.Y.P.E. 67.05 +4.00 7/30

12. Hawthorne Gold 64.65 -1.40 7/15

13. Velvet Knights 63.55 -0.40 7/15

14. Spirit of Newark 63.35 +8.15 7/21

15. Racine Scouts 61.90 +3.15 7/30

16. Mystikal 60.45 +0.15 7/15

17. Targets 58.20 +5.70 7/21

18. Blue Devils C 55.20 +3.00 7/01

19. Les Stentors 53.15 +0.90 7/26

Div II/III Grand Finalists

1. Spartans 89.65

2. Jersey Surf 89.6

3. Memphis Sound 86.45

4. Blue Devils B 85.25

5. Vanguard Cadets 82.35

6. Fever 82.15

7/8.Teal Sound 82.05

7/8. Revolution 82.05

9. Raiders 81.25

10. Dutch Boy 80.75

11. Oregon Crusaders 76.75

12. Citations 76.05

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13. Colt Cadets 74.65

14. Capital Sound 74.45

15. Spokane Thunder 73.2

16. 7th Regiment 71.65

17. Impulse 68.1

This is getting exciting, just look at how close some of these scores are two weeks out. Raiders are only 1.1 point out of 5th from 9th. A tie across divisions between Teal and Revo. If you go to GE like they would finals night, Teal took GE by .5 points. Impulse hasn't played a show in a while. They could jump into the mix. As it goes now an even mix of 6 Division 2s and 6 3s. There is looking to be alot of excitement all the way down to the wire in II/III this year

Edited August 1, 2007 by Teal_Euph88

[Teal_Euph88]

Top 3s

d2

1. Spartans 89.65 +3.05 7/30

2. Jersey Surf 89.60 -0.65 7/30

3. Blue Devils B 85.25 -0.50 7/30

d3

1. Memphis Sound 86.45 +2.20 7/30

2. Fever 82.15 -1.90 7/30

3. Revolution 82.05 +1.35 7/30

Next 6 regardless

1. Vanguard Cadets 82.35 -1.10 7/30

2. Teal Sound 82.05 +7.65 7/30

3. Raiders 81.25 +2.20 7/30

4. Dutch Boy 80.75 +5.05 7/30

5. Oregon Crusaders 76.75 +1.50 7/30

6. Citations 76.05 +0.80 7/30

(If Colt Cadets are going to finals, and outscore Citations, Colt Cadets make finals bringing the balance to 7/5 II/III respectively. 2 points has them out of finals right now.)

[ActualMarchingMember]

With the OR scores...

7-31-07

1. Jersey Surf 91.50 (Div. II)

2. Spartans 91.05 (Div. II)

3. Blue Devils B 87.45 (Div. II)

4. Memphis Sound 86.45 (Div. III)

5. Vanguard Cadets 84.65 (Div. II)

6. Fever 83.60 (Div. III)

7 (tie). Revolution 82.05 (Div. III)

7 (tie). Teal Sound 82.05 (Div. II)

9. Raiders 81.25 (Div. II)

10. Dutch Boy 80.75 (Div. III)

11. Oregon Crusaders 76.80 (Div. III)

12. Citations 75.40 (Div. III)

It's 3am in the morning, so excuse any mistakes. B)

HUGE congrats to Surf!

No Div. II/III shows until August 2nd, but those shows welcome back VK and Impulse so we'll see if that shakes anything up even more.

[Musicman1084]

With the OR scores...

It's 3am in the morning, so excuse any mistakes. B)

Department of redundancy department. :P

[CoHmempho04]

Forgot I already asked that question anyways

901!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Make a Vet happy, saw them at Jacksonville and they sounded amazing!!!!!

Edited August 1, 2007 by CoHmempho04

[OU812]

1. Jersey Surf - 87.30

2. Spartans - 86.60

3. Blue Devils B - 82.45

4. Memphis Sound - 81.75

5. Revolution - 80.20

6. Raiders - 79.05

7. Vanguard Cadets - 78.600

8. Fever - 77.05

9. Dutch Boy - 76.80

10. Citations - 75.25

11. Teal Sound - 74.40

12. Oregon Crusaders - 72.350

I don't know wheather to applaud or be concerned. I always enjoyed the SURF in 2004, 2005 and 2006. They were entertaining, innovative and original. However this year, I see a lot of Parking & Barking which is a trademark of ECJ. Surf also seems to be highlighting individual solo performers which was waht ECJ has done. Hmmm, Is Surf now ECJ with different uniforms? As I watched and listened to Surf perform recently, I didn't distinctly hear the music of the Beach Boys. The volume seemed to overshadow the actual music. The colorguard was very good and showed they could move and perform to the intent of the show.

The true scores (unweighted) which is what DCI uses in the final tally will be what matters.

[leadsop97]

OU812, I just watched our show from last year again to make sure I wasn't imagining things. I'd first like to mention that we "parked and barked" for our first major impact in the show, and that was it, that one time. Now I haven't seen Surf's show this year, but if "Parking and Barking" once is enough to make it seem like alot, then I suppose maybe they are doing. However, I have to applaud Surf. They have completely changed their program around from the last few years. Yes we at ECJ did highlight solo performers, but we were playing jazz, and honestly, what is jazz without solos? Again, I haven't seen Surf's show this year, are they playing jazz at all? If they have the players, which they definitely do, why not feature them. Just about every corps in the country has their featured soloist. Is Surf ECJ in new unis? Nah. are they competing with the top corps in div II like ECJ did the last 4 years, yes. I wish Surf luck, and hope for them to be crowned division II champs come August 11th because they have changed their program around. For the last several years, they have had fan favorite shows that placed them in the middle/lower pack in division II. From all of the reviews I've read, it still seems as though surf is the fan favorite, and the only thing that's different this time around, is they have a corps that has their eyes set on taking the whole thing. nothing bad about it. Congrats Surf, keep up the good work.

[EuphCub]

being an alum . . . surf is faaar from being ECJ in different unis thankyou very much.