Kamarag Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 He was a major philanthropist. Jobs was not. There is really no comparison between the two, and the analogy doesn't relate to drum corps well. Actually, you don't know that. Jobs very well could have made an enormous amount of charitable donations. All we know is that he didn't do it publicly. Which makes sense, because outside of Apple he was a very private man. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralTsoChicken Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Actually, you don't know that. Jobs very well could have made an enormous amount of charitable donations. All we know is that he didn't do it publicly. Which makes sense, because outside of Apple he was a very private man. Actually, we do. There is no such thing as "private donations"... as in a donation being a secret. The term private donation means it was done by an individual. The data is published and accessable. Any donation over $5,000 must be reported to the United States Internal Revenue Service, even if the donation is not taxed. According to a October 2007 IRS report he had never been reported to have surpassed the $5,000 mark. So the words "he never donated a penny" may be a stretch, but we know he never donated more than $5,000 to one organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Actually, we do. Again, we don't. He could very well have given under the $5k mark, and likely did. Speculation and facts are not the same. Regardless, we do know that though Apple doesn't give cash to charity groups, they were very active in education and disaster relief, giving equipment and support on many occasions. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralTsoChicken Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Again, we don't. He could very well have given under the $5k mark, and likely did. Speculation and facts are not the same. Echo? Like I said, he may have very well donated up to 5k. There is no way you can call this man a philanthropist, especially in comparison to someone who donated millions (cook). edit: 2.7 BILLION in donations before his death. (cook) Edited October 9, 2011 by GeneralTsoChicken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsubone Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/02/opinion/bono-praises-steve-jobs-as-generous-and-poetic.html I'm just going to leave this here again, since people seem unwilling to read. Apparently, he was much more of a philanthropist than people think. Reading really makes you smarter. But Steve Jobs really was one of the best in the world. And so much like a drum corps director, he would accept nothing short of perfection in everything he did. This is a mentality solely missing in today's world. I'm going to miss him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 edit: 2.7 BILLION in donations before his death. (cook) Yet, Bill Cook didn't change the world. Jobs certainly did. But your mileage may vary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralTsoChicken Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Yet, Bill Cook didn't change the world. Jobs certainly did. Yeah, it isn't like his company's charitable contributions of free medical products to third world countries saved 150+ million lives or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 You won't find a bigger fan of Bill Cook in drum corps than me, but before this thread totally derails, can we keep it on track discussing how Steve Jobs changed drum corps and not get caught up in the subject discussion of charitable contributions? (I suspect there are wonderful things about both private men that the public does not know for a reason, and we're sure not going to get that worked out here.) So, how did Steve Jobs' innovations change drum corps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fsubone Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 So, how did Steve Jobs' innovations change drum corps? For sure, it was allowing the easy transfer of technology between the staff. Pretty much all of our brass staff was using iPhones and iPads. They had tuners and metronomes installed on all of those, and they had easy access to the scores on their iPads. Changes could instantly be made into the music, and the music never had a risk of flying away in the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Jobs revolutionized (and probably saved) the music industry with iTunes. Here's another opportunity DCI and DCA have refused to take advantage of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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