perc2100 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Tonight I'm watching an SNL clip show (Women of SNL) when a fake commercial popped up containing an image we're very familiar with. The synopsis is that Amy Poehler is a super pregnant woman at a country/western bar. She ends up on the dance floor with host Josh Brolin, and the "punchline" is that the 'commercial' is for a perfume called "I'm No Angel." There is an image in the product's logo, and sure enough it is EXACTLY the same as Cadets 2011 angels & demons (minus the color scheme shirt. The episode aired originally October 18, 2008 so there is no doubt that whomever designed the shirt ripped it off from the SNL graphic. Here's a video of the SNL skit in question: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=76mexNsTyfo the lego is at the 1:52 mark. For reference here is a link with the Cadets shirt design: http://www.yea.org/s...&SURVEY_ID=9443 I know it is difficult for an organization to check to see if the logo was ripped off from someone, and likely Cadets took the design in good faith from whomever submitted it. That being said, shame on whomever the lame person was that ripped off someone else's work (which I would bet NBC owns the rights to). It's no wonder why that design was nearly undeniably the best looking design: because it was designed by a professional while the others were probably done by amateurs. In the grand scheme of things this isn't a huge deal (though NBC/whomever REALLY designed the art work might consider this a pretty big deal), but I just thought you'd all like to know that some talentless hack is getting credit for something they stole. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat61 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Just posted about this in the other thread. =P But its kinda sad that someone would do that and actually try to take credit for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie1223 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 LOL! or... maybe the person who designed that logo for NBC is also the same person that submitted it to Cadets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat61 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 LOL! or... maybe the person who designed that logo for NBC is also the same person that submitted it to Cadets... Then they would still be unethical xD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hornandsoccer Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 RAH TAKE BACK THE TROPHY just kidding maniacs. calm down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACMellos2010 Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 What makes someone unethical if they went through the correct channels and got permission to use the design? What if the design was not under any restrictions and they liked it and decided to use it? To me that is flattery to appreciate someone elses work and want to utilize it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Matczak Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) What makes someone unethical if they went through the correct channels and got permission to use the design? What if the design was not under any restrictions and they liked it and decided to use it? To me that is flattery to appreciate someone elses work and want to utilize it. The two questions are pretty big "what ifs",..........either way it would be good to know for sure tho,........ I agree on the flattery part,..........but it is copyright infringement if permission was not sought and/or granted,........... Edited February 16, 2012 by Gary Matczak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post danielray Posted February 16, 2012 Popular Post Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) This board loves a conspiracy, doesn't it? Yes, it is EXACTLY the same designer that SNL and cadets used. No, that designer did not work for SNL, but actually worked for me. The whole background is this... years ago, I had a company that was doing all kinds of mobile content stuff. This company had a contract with a television network to do all of these different types of mobile content promos. We'd split the revenue with the network, but we managed all of the content production and the system. These promos would run as bottom bar graphics on some youth-focused programs (sort of like what you see on American Idol) or run late night full screen when the station was off the air. We would come up with all kinds of concepts for these. The network would approve the content, then ask for artwork concepts, which they would then approve. These were things like horoscopes, love matches, trivia games, wall papers, etc. One of these was this game called Angel or Devil. The person would enter their name in an sms and send to a short code. The system had this super simple algorithm to select angel or devil and would generate a text layer of their name over an angel or devil graphic and send it to their phone as a wallpaper. The image that you are referring to is one of the concepts that one of our designers created for the onscreen graphic. This was rejected by the network, as they wanted something more playful... more like characters, because the character graphics from another project we had recently done did very well. So, didn't use it. Any designer or anyone that runs a design firm will tell you that about half of the work you do is rejected. You make up for this unbillable time in margins on accepted work. Anyone that knows me knows what a cheap ######## I am. Rather than just having all the stuff that isn't used just sit there, I have it made available for license in different stock libraries for designers (if you are a designer, you probably use these often, if not daily). Trying to calculate all the different royalty models (medium, run amount, reach, etc.) is really a pain in the ### and unless that is your actual business... not really worth it. So, we would just submit to royalty free libraries or under a royalty free model where it is one fee... knock yourself out. It would make sense that SNL would choose to buy a cheap royalty free graphic for sketches. Anyway, thanks for pointing that one out. Good eye. I'll have to show the designer the link. I doubt she has any idea what SNL is, but still will think it is pretty cool. I guess her design ended up on TV anyway. :-) Edited February 16, 2012 by danielray 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 That answer works for me. Thank you for addressing it, Daniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedawn Posted February 16, 2012 Share Posted February 16, 2012 (edited) http://youtu.be/eIonn9W9K6Y?t=2m54s Edited February 16, 2012 by whitedawn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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