Popular Post danielray Posted August 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2013 I do find it a bit strange when people are complaining about how out there drum corps is becoming. In reality, the activity is nearly 100 years behind other arts. Blue Devils music was exactly 100 years old. Carolina Crown was doing stuff from the 70's. This right here... almost 100 years old (a 1970's film of the recreation of work from the 1920's). This is also from the 1920's... Film from the 1920's... Graham almost 70 years ago.... Anyway, drum corps is so ridiculously far behind other arts... seems a bit bizarre that people complain it is moving too fast. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InspaDave Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 More often than not you have something worthwhile to say in posts you start. This is not one of those. You do not make an argument of any kind. All you have done here is throw out a couple of comments whose connection to drum corps as an "art form" is tenuous at best. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Michael Boo Posted August 25, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted August 25, 2013 I do find it a bit strange when people are complaining about how out there drum corps is becoming. In reality, the activity is nearly 100 years behind other arts. ... Anyway, drum corps is so ridiculously far behind other arts... seems a bit bizarre that people complain it is moving too fast. Drum corps is also way behind magazines that have had "Scratch 'n' Sniff" inserts for decades. Drum corps is way behind Broadway productions that have had elevated stages and flying for decades. Drum corps is way behind lots of things we take for granted in other forms of entertainment... ...because it's drum corps and not those other forms of entertainment. I support innovation in drum corps. I also support letting drum corps be drum corps. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 More often than not you have something worthwhile to say in posts you start. This is not one of those. You do not make an argument of any kind. All you have done here is throw out a couple of comments whose connection to drum corps as an "art form" is tenuous at best. Drum corps borrows from many other art forms... music, dance, painting, theatre, literature, architecture, film, animation. The activity unabashedly combines these in a rather brilliant way, but it is not necessary innovating... but simply emulating various innovations in each form... and adopting this only many decades later. It is a pretty obvious and salient argument. I mean, there are loads of things from other art forms that drum corps has never even attempted or explored, for example... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 I support innovation in drum corps. I also support letting drum corps be drum corps. What does that even mean? You mean what drum corps was in 1970's? 80's? 90's? What it will be in 2050? How is this a static or narrowly defined medium? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't even know where to begin with what you've just asked. I have to believe you're playing devil's advocate. What does that even mean? You mean what drum corps was in 1970's? 80's? 90's? What it will be in 2050? How is this a static or narrowly defined medium? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danielray Posted August 25, 2013 Author Share Posted August 25, 2013 BTW - it is completely inevitable that a corps will come out there soon without any tubas... a completely fluid concept of percussion (mix of stationary and moving... different points in the show)... and will absolutely kill it. Right now the rigid format for instrumentation is not really messed with because of the system in place where the manufacturers support top corps with gear and the staff of those corps endorse the manufacturers to create clinics, workshops, write for bands, etc. which perpetuates this sort of inertia in terms of instrumentation. This fixed concept of instrumentation is a financial barrier, particularly for Open Class corps. As a result, I think there is much greater opportunity for OC corps to truly innovate in terms of the structure of the medium. People are too focused on this sort of competitive inertia in terms of structure and format of shows... once someone breaks through that... we could see some really fascinating stuff. I think OC actually has more opportunity to innovate here and will be the ones to break through this, because they are less plugged into the Matrix, so to speak. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Michael Boo Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I don't know, Daniel. I think the following Simon & Garfunkel lyrics make as much sense in the context of this debate. And I think it's gonna be all right Yeah, the worst is over Now the morning sun is shining Like a red rubber ball 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bernie_VKpit Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 BTW - it is completely inevitable that a corps will come out there soon without any tubas... a completely fluid concept of percussion (mix of stationary and moving... different points in the show)... and will absolutely kill it. Right now the rigid format for instrumentation is not really messed with because of the system in place where the manufacturers support top corps with gear and the staff of those corps endorse the manufacturers to create clinics, workshops, write for bands, etc. which perpetuates this sort of inertia in terms of instrumentation. This fixed concept of instrumentation is a financial barrier, particularly for Open Class corps. As a result, I think there is much greater opportunity for OC corps to truly innovate in terms of the structure of the medium. People are too focused on this sort of competitive inertia in terms of structure and format of shows... once someone breaks through that... we could see some really fascinating stuff. I think OC actually has more opportunity to innovate here and will be the ones to break through this, because they are less plugged into the Matrix, so to speak. Great example of the theory of Dan Brown's Hammer. Be careful, this is a big tree that you are barking up, kind sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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