Stu Posted June 16, 2016 Share Posted June 16, 2016 (edited) ....at NO TIME did I mention this fictitious G7! ...The Title of the post wasn't meant to demean any corps as it was just a title that popped up when I wrote it. You did not mention them, but the G7 are far, far, far from being fictitious. They are also important to this thread because they are currently top 12 WC corps; and while 6 of the 7 began in DCI with some semblance of humble placements they sure did not stay humble in their attitude toward other corps who are now at the same exact place some of them were at many years ago; near the bottom. And by pointing this fact out is not demeaning to the 7 who signed and promoted the recent proposal, which did demean other corps, but it is just a posting of factual information within this thread concerning top 12 corps who came from humble beginnings and chose to walk away from that humbleness. Moreover, a very noble come-back corps that has experienced humbleness more than once which is mentioned in this thread, Boston Crusaders, even pointed out their own opinion of the G7 on the field in 2014! Edited June 16, 2016 by Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHall Posted June 17, 2016 Author Share Posted June 17, 2016 So I am going ADD like everyone else (squirrel)...this G7 thing was mentioned years ago and it hasn't happened yet and you would think that if it was so important that it would have been done. I see all World class drum corps doing there best to be competitive and not worry about this G7 thing. So can we move away from the "conspiracy theory" and just talk about whatever the topic is about. I swear people are like our government...."An negative event/issue pops up and we can use that as our smoke screen to hide what we are really doing behind the scenes. No one will know what hit them!" Squirrel....how about Dutchboy when they were the Dutchboy Cadets wearing liederhosen? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Thunder Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 You're absolutely right, Keith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) The following WC corps who are currently in existence, and also have been in the WC top 12, had at some point the following lowest placements within their years at top tier DCI competition: Cascades 45th Blue Knights 41st Boston 39th Bluecoats 38th Blue Stars 37th Colts 35th Crown 33rd Blue Devils 24th Crossmen 24th Troopers 24th Regiment 23rd Spirit 23rd Cadets 19th Cavaliers 15th Madison 15th SCV 8th The following WC corps that are no longer in existence or no longer compete in DCI, and also have been in the WC top 12, had at some point the following lowest placements within their years at top tier DCI competition: Kilties 49th Black Knights 45th Glassmen 42nd Argon Rebels 42nd Bleu Raiders 41st Des Plains Vanguard 41st Suncoast Sound 40th Guardsmen 39th Anaheim Kingsmen 37th Bridgemen 35th Velvet Knights 33rd Oakland Crusaders 32nd Dutch Boy 32nd Sky Ryders 31st North Star 30th Commodores 24th Royal Crusaders 24th Seneca Optimists 23rd Muchachos 21st Magic of Orlando 21st 27 Lancers 20th Freelancers 19th Purple Lancers 18th DeLaSallle Oaklands 16th Star of Indiana 10th Edited June 17, 2016 by Stu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 17, 2016 Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Double Post, sorry. Edited June 17, 2016 by Stu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindap Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 'The following WC corps that are no longer in existence or no longer compete in DCI, and also have been in the WC top 12, had at some point the following lowest placements within their years at top tier DCI competition:'Kilties 49th - 5thBlack Knights 45th - 10thGlassmen 42nd - 5thArgon Rebels 42nd - 5thBleu Raiders 41st - 12thDes Plains Vanguard 41st - 7thSuncoast Sound 40th - 5thGuardsmen 39th - 7thAnaheim Kingsmen 37th - 1stBridgemen 35th - 3rdVelvet Knights 33rd - 7thOakland Crusaders 32nd - 6thDutch Boy 32nd - 12thSky Ryders 31st - 9thNorth Star 30th - 9thCommodores 24th - 12thRoyal Crusaders 24th - 9thSeneca Optimists 23rd - 8thMuchachos 21st - 4thMagic of Orlando 21st - 8th27 Lancers 20th - 2ndFreelancers 19th - 8thPurple Lancers 18th - 10thDeLaSallle Oaklands 16th - 7thStar of Indiana 10th - 1stOut of respect for the above corps, I went to corpsreps.com and checked the highest placement of each corps since 1972. What I found is beside your list after the dash. I marched with Oakland Crusaders in 1976. I like to remember my age out year as being on a high note. I'm grateful for my drum corps and winter guard experiences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindap Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 (edited) So I am going ADD like everyone else (squirrel)...this G7 thing was mentioned years ago and it hasn't happened yet and you would think that if it was so important that it would have been done. I see all World class drum corps doing there best to be competitive and not worry about this G7 thing. So can we move away from the "conspiracy theory" and just talk about whatever the topic is about. I swear people are like our government...."An negative event/issue pops up and we can use that as our smoke screen to hide what we are really doing behind the scenes. No one will know what hit them!" Squirrel....how about Dutchboy when they were the Dutchboy Cadets wearing liederhosen? As background, I've always had an interest in language and literature. I remember enjoying my theatre classes and our teacher making us explore the historical era to provide context to the play we were studying and/or performing. We would also research the clothing, life style and colloquialisms of each era. I remember a thread on DCP that asked if the reader used the words 'soda' or 'pop'. The answers were generally based from various regions in North America. It was a refreshing thread. In all honesty, I read your post 3 times to try and understand the meaning. It's not clear to me. Please accept my apologies and clarify. I don't know the colloquialism 'squirrel'. I searched. The response; 'a squirrel is a type of rodent'. Please enlighten me. I enjoy learning something new each and every day. (As an aside, I was a staff member for Dutchboy Cadets 1975-1976. They wore long pants in 76. They were a great group and I enjoyed my time with them. Hugs!) Edit: does ADD mean the mathematical term? Edited June 18, 2016 by lindap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Posted June 18, 2016 Share Posted June 18, 2016 Out of respect for the above corps, I went to corpsreps.com and checked the highest placement of each corps since 1972. What I found is beside your list after the dash. I marched with Oakland Crusaders in 1976. I like to remember my age out year as being on a high note. I'm grateful for my drum corps and winter guard experiences. Well... the two lists I made, in which the second list included the Oakland Crusaders, were done out of respect to the question presented by the original poster, Kieth Hall which read, and I quote: "What top 12 corps started out at the bottom, or near the bottom, of drum corps? I would have to say the only top 12 corps today would have to be Bluecoats. But what other corps from previous years had a not so successful season? Glassmen maybe? Others?" So, I was merely accommodating his request by presenting the not so successful placements of the corps which have been in the top 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindap Posted June 19, 2016 Share Posted June 19, 2016 You're cool Stu. Hugs. I'm going to take a break from historical threads and watch 2016 drum corps over the next while. I'll be back when I have a flashback moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithHall Posted June 20, 2016 Author Share Posted June 20, 2016 LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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