MiamiSun76 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 If that means I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, I plead guilty. I think reasonable people would find your position totally understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomMoore Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I think reasonable people would find your position totally understandable. Reasonable and me in the same sentence.....that's not common! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironlips Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Wagner's music transcends the man himself, in my view. He was clearly an anti-Semite, just as Jefferson was a slaveholder, Kennedy a womanizer, and on and on. He had a hole in his soul, but there was nothing wrong with his ear. I completely understand the ethical person's ambivalence towards all things Wagnerian, but having stood in the center of Phantom's "Elsa", I would not deprive the world of his music, at least not their take on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomMoore Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Wagner's music transcends the man himself, in my view. He was clearly an anti-Semite, just as Jefferson was a slaveholder, Kennedy a womanizer, and on and on.He had a hole in his soul, but there was nothing wrong with his ear. I completely understand the ethical person's ambivalence towards all things Wagnerian, but having stood in the center of Phantom's "Elsa", I would not deprive the world of his music, at least not their take on it. This I agree with. I suppose I'm a bit more on the negative side than ambivalent, but I too wouldn't deprive the world of his music, and definitely not Regiment's rendition of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaners Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 i find it hard to believe that wagner wrote essays about unity of ideas and sounds and emotions, and buddists / taoist ideas and incorporated them into his music, yet at the same time his stances socially seems to completely contradict his stances musically. im in awe of how he could create such beautiful music with so much anger and distaste in his life. can anyone relate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I can only say that in my capacity with DCI and Drum Corps World that year, I never once heard anyone express any concerns with Phantom playing the music of Wagner. Of course, we didn't have a Drum Corps Planet then. Sometimes it seems someone will express concern at the news that a corps is going to change its socks from crew to argyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantom&Phitch Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 (edited) I think The Cadets got more flack for playing something "from kill bill" Edited November 23, 2005 by Phantom&Phitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerlady Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 Wow I guess I missed that Music Lit class, I did not know that about Wagner but thanks for the Music History lesson. I love Music lit. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Boo Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 I think The Cadets got more flack for playing something "from kill bill" Why? I had not heard that. The Bernard Herrmann music was written for the 1968 film "Twisted Nerve" and was simply appropriated by "Kill Bill." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GmenBari78 Posted November 23, 2005 Share Posted November 23, 2005 And there's very little in the drum corps world, VERY little, that can compare with sitting in the front row of the stands while the Regiment horn line plays Elsa's Procession to the Cathedral. I can't describe what that's like. Bliss comes to mind, but it's better than that. yes, elsa's is awesome: I think it was 2004, they played it for encores? I heard it at the show in Fairfield OH, but only after yelling for "ELSAS!!!!" for a bit after they did one number, did they pull it out. I was in heaven! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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