DCA Horn Scores

[Brassop]

Here are the top 10 horn placements for prelims & finals for you other recap freaks. Kilties are included in the prelims scores for top 10 by virtue of their three way tie with Hurcs & CorpsVets which rounded out 8th through 10th. Conversely, CGold is excluded by the same "top 10 horns" criteria. Interestingly, while there was a gap of but 3.7 between first and last in prelims, that gap widened to 7.1 at finals. (CorpsVets for example went down a full 2 points)

Prelims:

1 Bush 39.5

2 Empire 39.3

3 Cabs 39.1

4 Bucs 38.9

5 Renegades 38.4

6 MBI 38.1

7 Brigs 37.2

8 Kilties 35.8

9 Hurcs 35.8

10 CorpsVets 35.8

Finals:

1 Bush 39.0

2 Empire 38.4

3 Bucs 38.1

4 Cabs 37.6

5 MBI 36.6

6 Renegades 36.4

7 Brigs 36.3

8 Hurcs 34.3

9 CorpsVets 33.8

10 CGold 31.9

Edited October 18, 2006 by Brassop

[AlbionNY Drum Line]

hmm!

[JKatzmellophone]

Here are the top 10 horn placements for prelims & finals for you other recap freaks. Kilties are included in the prelims scores for top 10 by virtue of their three way tie with Hurcs & CorpsVets which rounded out 8th through 10th. Conversely, CGold is excluded by the same "top 10 horns" criteria. Interestingly, while there was a gap of but 3.7 between first and last in prelims, that gap widened to 7.1 at finals. (CorpsVets for example went down a full 2 points)

Prelims:

1 Bush 39.5

2 Empire 39.3

3 Cabs 39.1

4 Bucs 38.9

5 Renegades 38.4

6 MBI 38.1

7 Brigs 37.2

8 Kilties 35.8

9 Hurcs 35.8

10 CorpsVets 35.8

Finals:

1 Bush 39.0

2 Empire 38.4

3 Bucs 38.1

4 Cabs 37.6

5 MBI 36.6

6 Renegades 36.4

7 Brigs 36.3

8 Hurcs 34.3

9 CorpsVets 33.8

10 CGold 31.9

Changed my mind! Two different panels two different nights!

Edited October 18, 2006 by JKatzmellophone

[G-horns]

Okay, here's a possible explaination....

Prelims had a heck of a lot more corps than finals (Duhhh!). Given the environmental conditions, length of the day/night, and the need to put the priority on rank rather than rate, the scores are certainly within reason. Fitting all those corps into the point range is certainly a challenge for anyone.

Finals on the other hand, was a better environment, shorter time period and just a whole lot better from the judging panel's perspective. And the idea that fewer corps needed to fit into the point range allowed the panelists to use a sharper pencil to distiguish between competitors.

All this - even the actual scores - make little difference if the best performance received the highest number and the remaining performances were ranked appropriately.

[jbabymusic]

My only problem with this explanation is that the question would arise, "why have numbers at all if it's only about who beat whom on any particular night." There is a criteria to get into each box of scoring and it is supposed to be a repeatable system. We talk all season long about what the judges scores mean and how they are saying this and that about our performance and therefore we need to be doing this and that to get into box 5.

I'm sure there ar flaws in my argument.

/I said "get into each box"

[bumo27]

I said "get into each box"

You sure you never marched Bush? We say stuff like that all the time.

[DrumCorpsLives]

Rank and rate.

Or is it rate and rank.

Either way, they're supposed to do both.

(2 pt drop? Yet move up a placement. Wow. Sick.)

[Smglennon]

Look it is simple, at prelims, they gave someone a number that was a bit high and had to go high on the others to justify the spread. At finals, they started at a more appropriate level and things seemed lower, when they were actually the correct numbers. Not speculating on anything, just think they started too high.

[SaraNYC]

Look it is simple, at prelims, they gave someone a number that was a bit high and had to go high on the others to justify the spread. At finals, they started at a more appropriate level and things seemed lower, when they were actually the correct numbers. Not speculating on anything, just think they started too high.

Yeah and besides, visual performance was a bag at prelims compared to the horns because of the weather and there not being any lines on the field. They had to reward the corps for somethinbg or the scores would have been abysmal. IMO of course.

[wsssb]

Look it is simple, at prelims, they gave someone a number that was a bit high and had to go high on the others to justify the spread. At finals, they started at a more appropriate level and things seemed lower, when they were actually the correct numbers. Not speculating on anything, just think they started too high.

You are probably right.

SoCal Dream went on first at both prelims and finals.

Dream's horn score at prelims was 32.0.

That score took a huge drop to 29.5 at finals.