KeithHall

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  1. I had never made it to Lynn, Mass till 1982 with Renegades (NY). I was saddened to see Bridgemen march their Christmas in July show. Still have the pictures. I returned in mid 80's with the Rochester Patriots but the World Open wasn't the same as US Open. Not saying Lynn was bad, just didn't compare to Marion in the 70's. Argonne was always a favorite of mine!
  2. ....In the 1970's what was the BEST National Championship Contest? US Open? American-International Open? World Open? And WHY? I will say, in my opinion, Marion, Ohio US Open. Hometown feel. The city made it a special event for everyone. Parade was large. Stands were jammed. Plenty of corps and comraderie!
  3. Alabama....................Charioteers? New York...................Purple Lancers, Squires, Patriots? Florida.......................Suncoast, Magic, Wave? Georgia.....................Spirit of Atlanta? Pennsylvania............Crossmen, Royal Crusaders? California..................Blue Devils, Santa Clara Vanguard or Anaheim Kingsmen? Washington.............Cascade, Imperials, Marksmen, Black Watch Oregon....................Argonauts Illinois.....................Cavaliers, Phantom Regiment, Black Knights Ohio.......................Bluecoats, Glassmen Indiana...................Star, Maple City Cadets? Wisconsin..............Madison Scouts, Kilties, Blue Star Massachusetts.....27th Lancers, Boston Crusaders, North Star on and on
  4. Upstate NY Corps History

    Looking for other Upstate NY corps....Greece Cadets, Black Knights, Tri Town Cadets, St. Joe's, Marauders, 76er's, Magnificent Yankees, Alpine Girls, Mello Dears, Appalachin Grenadiers, Lakeview Shoreliners, Imperial Regiment, Mighty Liberators, Geneva Appleknockers, Gauchos, Patriots, Firebirds, Avant Garde, Squires, Mark Twain Cadets, Empire State Express, Barons of Stuben, etc
  5. Many of you know some or all of corps history so lets hear about them ROYAL COACHMEN...North Tonawanda, NY Started off as the Aristocrats in the early 60's with the Rescue Hose #5 Fire Company and changed the name to the Royal Coachmen. They took their colors (Gold and Black) from the fire company. The corps was a parade corps until 1970 when they did their first competition. As I recall, they surprised everyone with a finalist position at The Penn-York Championships in 1970. The next year the legend, Bill McGrath, wrote the drill and the corps participated in the new season with a brand new director. From 1972 to 75 the corps was always "rebuilding." Staff changes were made and Steve Cooley was with the corps as music arranger for 3 years. Corky Fabrizio wrote the show in 1972. 1976 saw the corps bring in Ted Key (music arranger) and Bob Stone( drill designer) as well as Bill Decker, Doug Kleinhans and Larry Darch on percussion. The year was a successful one with the winning of the NT Open "A" Class title. Sadly, the director resigned the morning the corps left for DCI Champiuonships in Philadelphia. Hotel accomodations were messed up and the corps didn't get to sleep until late. After a couple of hours of sleep and a short rehearsal the corps performed a lackluster performance and failed to make the top 10 of A Class. Returning home, the director came back to the corps and after a winter rehearsal to get ready for the 1977 season he resigned again prior to Memorial Day. The new director decided to merge with another local corps and instead of taking the Royal Coachmen name we took their name of the Frontiersmen. Many senior members left for other corps and the Royal Coachmen were gone! Although corps in NY were dying by then more were to follow...actually ALL of them!
  6. RIP James "Jim" Allen

    Rest in Peace my friend! I was shocked when I opened FB this afternoon
  7. Maybe the question should be...which venue had the best drum corps atmosphere? What venue felt like a drum corps event?
  8. Most Successful Corps BY State

    Could we say Valiant Knights were Oklahoma's top corps? Loved that corps in 1976.
  9. DCI trivia question

    Blue Knights?
  10. I have 2 but my first was 1972! That was our corps first time at US Open in Marion, OH. The trip in 2 school buses was "interesting" to say the least. No DVD player, no cell phones....how did we get by? LOL I remember the old elementary school we stayed at with the Greece Cadets. Prior to our prelims performance we rehearsed in the concrete playground area which was way to small to practice any drill. Remember back then....no concert number due to the shorter time limit in prelims. I remember "stepping Off The Line" with a Corky Fabrizio show with songs from "Oliver." The late Dick Pronti was with us to work drill. At the end of prelims we did pretty well. Not near finalist position but we beat some corps that we didn't in NY. The next day was Open class prelims and I remember walking to Cadet Hall for breakfast with 2 older corps members and then walking to the stadium. Memory is still decent as I was so impressed with almost all the corps. One corps didn't impress me and they ended up in last place (32nd Hussar). Highly impressed by Blue Rock, Des Plaines Vanguard, Bleu Raeders, Anaheim Kingsmen and Beverly Cardinals to mention a few. The All Girl corps were also impressive, especially St. John's Girls and CapitolAires. The A Class Final show was also interesting...especially Etobicoke Crusaders, Southern Tier Grenadiers, Charioteers, and Royal Crusaders. Great year too because it was the first DCI Championship!
  11. Missing!

    I was never a member of the Empire Statesmen! I almost was in 1990 but chose Crusaders instead. That being said, Vince Bruni's idea of being entertaining to the audience is sorely missed IMO. The fact that they (ES) are gone today saddens me every year! Would love to see all the DCA corps say "Screw it!" and play a show that drum corps fans of all ages can just say they LOVE! I am NOT against what the corps do today but feel that DCA could be more entertaining than their counterpart DCI. EVERYTHING that DCI does eventually gets to DCA and makes the shows less entertaining. I LOVE the shows today and the playing is better than ever (the marching? eh) but lets hear something that gets me humming the songs or tapping my foot.
  12. Missing!

    Every time I post something , right before I submit, I ask myself, "How many people will be negative about this post?" I then say to myself, "Screw it!" Sometimes I dislike what someone will say and then I think (before I reply), "would it be wrong for me to be nasty or negative towards another?" I know that we are all EXPERTS in everything these days, from politics to drum corps. So before you respond to anyone's posts on social media, think how you would want to be treated or talked to. Some days I just want to dump DCP because of the responses I read! Whatever happened to being nice?
  13. Missing!

    I was never a member of the Empire Statesmen! I almost was in 1990 but chose Crusaders instead. That being said, Vince Bruni's idea of being entertaining to the audience is sorely missed IMO. The fact that they (ES) are gone today saddens me every year! Would love to see all the DCA corps say "Screw it!" and play a show that drum corps fans of all ages can just say they LOVE! I am NOT against what the corps do today but feel that DCA could be more entertaining than their counterpart DCI. EVERYTHING that DCI does eventually gets to DCA and makes the shows less entertaining. I LOVE the shows today and the playing is better than ever (the marching? eh) but lets hear something that gets me humming the songs or tapping my foot. WHERE in this post did I say that Empire was the standard bearer for entertainment in drum corps???? I said Vince's idea is missed by me (IMO). I also said I like what the corps are doing today! My opinion is DCA corps could be more entertaining! That's all! MY OPINION! BTW as far as I know we can still have an opinion in this country. I try not to criticize others. On DCP and any social media it just leads to bad feelings. Ya know what I mean?
  14. Many of you marched in different eras. For me, it was the 1970's. Here are my highlights and I hope you post yours. First competition at Endicott, NY 1971...Watkins Glen Squires won! Phantom Regiment at our show in North Tonawanda in 1974...WOW! US Open in Marion, Oh 1972, 73 and 74. Winning Class A at NT Open 1976....May not have been significant to most but to us is was a huge deal! Sadly, our corps director quit before we left for DCI in Philly and we were just not very motivated. Teaching Renegades (NY) in 1982 Teaching Rochester Patriots 1985 -89 Brass caption for Hoechster Schlossgarde, DCD Champions (Germany) 1986-88. Brass Staff Rochester Crusaders, working with Donnie Allen and Steve Cooley! 2001 -2003 Brass Staff Heatwave
  15. .....that moment when you knew that drum corps was what you wanted to do? For me there were 3 times, 2 before I joined and one after.... The first time I was an 8 year old kid who was riding his bike and heard drums. I rode my bike in the direction of the sound and turned the corner to see a group of kids playing drums and horns marching. Two years later it was announced that two drum and bugle corps were going to play a concert in the park a block over from where we lived. I was there watching The Suburban Knights and the Royal Coachmen. I started playing trumpet that summer and knew I wanted to join and in June 1971 I joined up. The evening of my first show had me reeled in as I saw the Lakeview Shoreliners, Squires, Mark Twain Cadets, Mello Dears, etc and I knew that this is what I wanted to do. I quit baseball and was obsessed with playing the funny trumpet with a valve and a rotor. It was a year later that we competed at the US Open in Marion, OH, and I saw Blue Rock, St. Andrew's, Des Plaines Vanguard and tons of corps. I was in love!
  16. How many corps put together an ice hockey team in the 70's? I remember Madison Scouts but who else? Klties? Cavaliers? Blue Stars? others?
  17. Was it Garfield Cadets, Blue Devils, Santa Clara, Star of Indiana, Phantom Regiment, Bridgemen, Carolina Crown, Madison Scouts, Anaheim Kingsmen or another corps? Was it 1972? 1976?Or 1960's? 1982? There's no right or wrong answer. Just give us your reasons why?
  18. ...ever a corps to come from the basement of drum corps to rise to the top? I don't mean mergers or Star of Indiana. I mean a corps that was in the basement. I can only think of Bluecoats. Kilties went to the basement in their junior days and never made it back (junior-wise). Any other corps?
  19. Lets place entertainment to the audience first and foremost! Put together shows that will make the fans "throw babies!" Rock the stadium and make'em go home humming your show!!!!!
  20. The kids that march corps today want to march, just like we did! Times have changed and the activity, over 40 or 50 years, has been changing and changing. What you see today is the culmination of all the changes since the inception of DCI. From Timpani's to 2 valves and mallet keyboards to 3 valve horns to asymetrical drills to guard uniforms different than the brass and percussion to...and it goes on and on. What we did back in the day was great for us just like what the kids do today is great for them. What we older corps people need to do is Remember the past and celebrate the future!
  21. This is from a current thread on the DCI page but did it happen in your corps? We had it happen a few times as I remember 2 or 3 individuals left to join St. Joe's, 2 left in 1974 to march Phantom Regiment.
  22. ...the days when the only way you knew what music the corps were playing was by reading Drum Corps News or Drum Corps World? ...when corps would play a variety of music and there wasn't a theme? Who started this "THEME" thing anyways? Des Plaines Vanguard? Troopers? Who???? ...waiting for the CONCERT number where corps could sit back and play? ...all the All Girl Corps? Bon Bons, St. Ignatius? Mello Dears? St. Johns Girls? CapitolAires? etc ...Colts old look? ...Bridgemen and Velvet Knights? ...George Zingali and Steve Brubaker? ...Fred Stanford? ...All NY corps that are gone? (Being someone who competed in NY in the 1970's, this upsets me)...although corps from North America that are gone are missed! ...DCI on PBS LIVE?????
  23. Do You Remember .......

    Linda, it was probably the NT Open in North Tonawanda, NY. 1. Blue Devils ..................................81.90 2. Cavaliers......................................78.40 3. Regimente Militaire.....................74.55 (Best CG) 4. Squires........................................68.35 5. Precisionaires..............................66.95 6. Pioneer........................................64.40 7. Seneca Princemen......................63.80 (Best DM) 8. Charioteers..................................63.15 9. Argonne Rebels..........................61.00 10. Iron Brigade..............................50.4 Mark Twain Cadets (54.05) won "A" Class followed by Floridians and Royal Coachmen
  24. Amen Jeff! I think we'll see what happens this year and then we can say whether or not B-coats where a game changer!
  25. I think, for better or worse, the formation of DCI, showed that this activity should evolve. Obviously there were clear goals to start and over the course of time the activity changed and changed. If corps were still doing the same thing today as we did in the 1970's, I don't think there would be a drum corps activity. There are good things and not so good things about change in anything in life BUT staying the same year after year would just be mundane and turn people off. DCI reached out to band directors, band directors used the corps model for their marching bands. More educators are (probably) more involved in drum corps than ever before. We have Soundsport, WGI guard and percussion, etc. The activity is still trying to go to the next level. Kudos to Royer, Jones, Seawright, Hopkins, Fiedler, Gibbs, the list goes on and on........ It's not the same thing that we did in the 60's or 70's but #### it's fun to watch and listen to and THE KIDS are so darn talented!!!!