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Haha well I guess this makes you a real expert then doesn't it?!?!? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA Keep dreaming

wow... all I have to say is wow. In particular... "One hint ....... first destroy .... second heal .... 3rd refine. That's old school, and few do it anymore." Maybe one of the most hilarious approaches to music I've ever heard. It's playing an instrument, not a fat kid attacking a bag of Doritos. Seriously though thanks, it's been a long week, I needed the laugh. You're pretty much saying, a baby should run... sorry, not run, sprint first, then walk, then stand, then sit. Just a generic note, I hope too many of you aren't band directors. I feel bad for the poor kids learning how to play their instruments from you. ;)

Not to mention that comment by bullethead is ridiculous. If you taught near Eddie Green and that's what you took out of the concept he developed, you clearly missed the boat, train, plane and any other form of transportation you could've gotten on. That, in no way what so ever, is the concept he developed.

actually the Cavaliers don't tell the hornline members to play softer, they just tell them to never play beyond the best quality of sound one can make on the horn. Which in the case of marching instruments is rather limited. Also the point about the Symphony Orchestra brass sections playing with edge is absolutely correct. Only objection to that is the people playing in the top symphony orchestras in the world are also the best brass players in the world. If Joe Alessi and Malcolm McNabb were playing in drum corps they would be able to achieve that. However, drum corps are made up of kids 15-22. No one in that age group has the experience or ability of a professional. So defending edgy drum corps by referencing the professionals is not entirely applicable.

Everyone can think what they want but chances are you just don't understand how the technique is done unless you've marched it. Everyone's gonna teach what they want and that's okay. I happen to know a lot of successful high school programs that use the Cavaliers marching technique or at least some elements of it. When it comes down to it, you have to do what ever makes the most sense... That's an argument that could last forever. Not saying there's a correct or incorrect answer to that it just depends on what you know, how well you know it, and how good of a teacher you are. I'm not campaigning for one technique over another, in fact, I'm pretty indifferent as I've seen groups have success (not just competitive but in consistency in establishing a technique) with both techniques. I really do get amused by the amount of ignorant accusations made by people with zero dependable experience and an opinion that is formed by uninformed observations. Besides, wasn't the original point of this topic for someone who marches or marched in the Cavaliers could explain the mechanics of the technique?

I have a hard time associating the word "creative" with shows by corps that are: A) being done for the third time in the corps' history. B) based on recently done winter drumline shows. C) rely completely on past ideas (Visually and musically) of past drum corps shows that were creative and innovative. Just sayin'.

Remember also 2004? The first show Cavaliers beat BD at was quarterfinals. THAT was a close year and I see this years placements being more like that in terms of how close everything finished scorewise with the top 3.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... 8 out 10 people that hold a music ed degree are barely qualified to teach music, let alone judge music effect. :tongue:

Crown will not place in the top 4

Keep in mind in 2006 Regiment only won Visual GE on finals night... and the Atlanta regional. Same judge both nights (Mike Anderson) and he's no longer judging.... for a reason.

Ah yes the experts on everything that is drum corps.

I also enjoy that by "half of the ideas have been done in the last 7 years by the corps" essentially means oh they made a triangle. Oh they made a square. Gaines drill is very geometric so when he makes a shape (of which there aren't an endless number of) people think it's the same thing. I personally would rather see that then a bunch of squiggles that serve no purpose in regard to staging or visual effect. I actually think that's one of BD's stronger points of their visual program this year is they explore more visual options and it's effective. Next time you watch Cavaliers look at the brilliant transitions and INNOVATIVE level of integration applied though all sections in the corps. I can also watch most corps shows one time and get the idea. Cavaliers need to be watched 3 or 4 times just to begin to pick up everything going on in their show. That's innovation, and until corps other than Cavaliers, SCV, and BD start picking up on that, I'm going to have a hard time thinking anything else.

That's the dumbest statement of the year. One of the most well known forms of Japanese music is the taiko drumming. Most of the other music is based on The Last Samurai. Would you really want to hear an entire show based on the minor pentatonic scale?

The Cavaliers do what I wish everyone in DCI would do.... Put the education of the kids in the hornline ahead of all other priorities. Why would you want to teach a non-professional player (which is anyone old enough to still be marching drum corps) to play so loud that it hurts them physically. Also why would you want to tell a kid to play so loud that they have no awareness of the sounds coming out of their instruments, good or bad. The best ensembles I've ever heard have their kids play their horns characteristically and then match the other characteristic sounds in the ensemble. It's also a fact that the only reason you hear loud playing as "quality sound" is because it's noise. The noise covers tuning and tone issues because all it is is noise. Now listen to the Cavaliers and you don't hear noise but you hear clarity. Once that clarity is refined the sound is unmatched. If you ask some of the other top drum corps out there... Blue Devils, Vanguard, Bluecoats, Madison, they're aspiring towards a more educational experience for the members of their hornlines. I use those examples because the fine people teaching those hornlines all have connections with the Cavaliers approach to playing and the idea that teaching a kid how to play their horn correctly is the most efficient method of teaching brass. And for all of you talking about orchestral players playing that loud... NEWS FLASH: It took those professionals 30 years of correct, characteristic playing to understand how to achieve volume like that while maintaining a quality of sound. For the record: I do hear quite a significant difference between Crown and Cavaliers. But then again I have very trained ears.

Agreed... Top 3: 1. BD/Cadets 2. Cavaliers 3. BD/Cadets