HockeyDad

Can you name the person you are referring to…and why this matters?

Y’all took the bait from Phantom56. Heh.

Cool. So the best people to solve the problems are the ones who can’t get their corps out on tour? I thought I’d give you another chance to answer the question if you care to.

So the best people to solve the problems are the ones who can’t get their corps out on tour? Super.

I love the handwringing. Apparently there is no solution. Ya’ll certainly haven’t offered up anything other than to shoot down any idea. Oh, bother.

Local recruitment? Please tell me where in my post I said local recruitment. I said local touring market. If you want to come from the moon to perform with my corps, welcome! We will be touring in a tri state area (or something like that, just making it up) until finals week when all corps gather for the annual jamboree! Imagine the excitement when BD and BAC first meet at quarterfinals.

It’s not that I don’t like it. Rather that it’s not particularly believable. Nor, as Jeff points out, is it very detailed. Expenses caught up on us? We didn’t want to provide a substandard experience? That’s why you can’t field a corps in 2024? So again, it’s not that I don’t like the information, rather that I find the explanation to be a bit implausible. And that’s a generous interpretation. Because if I take it at face value, it’s worse. The only thing separating them from being able to participate from not was some late unexpected bills and subpar infrastructure. Not good. If that’s all it was, a couple calls to some key donors could have fixed it. Yeah, I shall remain skeptical.

Re the - that ship has sailed - comment: many times on DCP this is restated. By many posters. So Illiana this is not directed at you. If the ship has sailed, but it’s about to go down on a reef, maybe the ship needs to turn around. Shall we collectively be so stubborn in our refusal to go “back to the future” that we allow the entire activity to die because of unsustainable cost increases? Maybe contracting and going back local is the way to Save the activity. But oh, would the quality of the product suffer? Maybe. Probably. Sure. Yes I will boldly state the quality of the product would suffer. I’d prefer that, Much prefer that, to an activity that “evolved” itself into complete extinction. That’s the cold slap of reality smacking us in the face.

Am I caught in a bait-and -switch scheme here? I want to discuss what is going on that Cadets can’t leave the driveway in 2024. That’s far from a nothing burger. And I don’t believe it’s because some unexpected bills came in late and…Oops! There is more to it. Yet everyone seems to want to instead talk about how angry they are that Richard L. piled on about the PA registration. If that’s a nothing burger (and I agree that it is) then WHY can’t you stop talking about it ?!? RL has not even posted to this thread!

Did they pat you on the head as they said it? “There, there, sport. How ‘bout a Fresca?!”

Wild theories? I don’t know, but “lawyers cost money” doesn’t seem very controversial to me.

I have no interest in their PA filing status. That’s “straining at the gnat and passing the camel.” And the person who rang that bell has not posted to this thread. Yet here we are still grousing about it. My interest, and may I offer, the much greater interest, should be in why the BOD apparently failed financially to the point they can’t field a corps in 2024. So far we have one carefully worded post from a BOD member, which I greatly appreciate, but which doesn’t answer the question. I would hold my donations until much more specific information is provided. They are under no obligation to do so. Just as we are under no obligation to donate. Peace.

None y’all’s business would be a typical answer

You fail to handle the financial side to the point you can’t field a corps in 2024, and that invites scrutiny. Why is anybody surprised? And, like Marimba said, that’s on Cadets BOD, not on the people asking questions.

Would you call not being able to field a corps in 2024 handling things well? Or are we all supposed to ignore that and just move on? Stay tuned for information on how You can help! And all that? Nah, fool me once, shame one you. Fool me twice shame on me.

Please stop putting words in my mouth. I posted questions I would like to see answered. I did Not say I want the answers *right now*. You said it. You reposted the board member’s post from several days ago, as if to say - he already provided the root cause. Well, no, he didn’t.

Yes, I read all those words when he posted them. That is not a root cause statement. It’s a - well we kinda ran out of money. That is not the root cause. Let’s take a trip up the “why staircase”. Why did you run out of money? Well, apparently their budget was inaccurate and they had no reserves. Why was your budgeting inadequate? Why did you have no reserves? I think that’s where we are at this point. They might be getting close but we don’t have the root cause yet. And you can’t figure out corrective actions to prevent reoccurrence until they have the root cause. So this is where we are.

You win I guess. I was there to escort you and take the missile hit so you wouldn’t.

I know you’re not in corps leadership. That’s why I wrote it that way, so you’d know I wasn’t directing it at you. I guess that was a fail. P. S. Fun fact - I was in the navy too. CGN-36. Long ago and far away.

A nickel or two taped to the top of the stylus should help with the crackling. But you know that!

Question - what is the root cause of Cadets inability to field a corps in 2024? Second question - what are the corrective actions to prevent reoccurrence? I would want to know some fairly straightforward answers to these questions before I would consider entertaining responding to the - Stay tuned from information on how You can help! - posting from them. To date the only thing I saw was that unexpected expenses kinda snuck up on them. Oops! But hey, there’s big plans in place for 2025! Kinda speaks directly to Jeff’s point - paint the rosy picture. Gloss over it. I would never throw good money after bad. I’d want real answers.

You’ve convinced me Slingerland. It’s an unsustainable (read “failed”) business model. Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Beautifully written. It’s a weird thing - I would expect to get a sense of humility coming from SCV and Cadets leadership teams. Instead it feels like we’re getting attitude.

If y’all think Mr. Lesher is a kook, and you think “DCP is a vacuum” and no one reads it, then why are you reacting so strongly? He’s just asking a question. If he’s a nut, ignore him. Laugh at him. Whatever. Anyway, yes, Terri, reading the title of this thread makes me sick. Someone failed here. It didn’t “just happen.” A lot of attitude here when there should be remorse.

Are you missing a “7” at the end of the EIN field?