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that's cause it's not French. it's Latin.

Finis is Latin for "the ending" or "the finish" And yes, it is pronounced just as they say it is.. FinEE

my bad.

This is so great it deserves 2 bumps in 12 hours. "The Troopers in name and appearance, are what America was. The young men and women united under the Trooper banner are what America is." Ahhhhh That's fantastic. CANNOT WAIT!!

I have to say that after being on tour this summer while Mike was shooting for this film and after watching that trailer, I am SO stoked to see this EPIC movie!!! It looks fantastic!! The first trailer alone gave me chills!!! Everyone who appreciates drum corps (not just Trooper fans) needs to check out this flick!!! Mad props Gough.

Wow. What a topic. There is so much to say... where to begin? My sophomore year I got roped into my high schools' indoor drumline by this cute girl I had crush on and thought that if I joined, I could get her to like me. I had no real prior musical education in anything and had never touched a pair of drumsticks in my life. I remember the first time she asked me to join, I looked at her like she was crazy and had no idea what a drumline even was. I think it's safe to say that there wasn't really anything special about me when I graduated high school in 2005. I wasn't going to an Ivy League school. I wasn't striving to be a doctor or a lawyer. I had no girlfriend, no job, no real aspirations for the future. In those 3 years I spent in high school drumline I learned a lot, but would never have described myself at being even remotely close to a good musician. I sat at home towards the end of that first summer after high school saying goodbye to my high school friends, watching each of them leave for their own endeavors in different places and institutions one by one. I was stuck at home, still living with my parents and barely taking a full class load at a crappy community college. By my own definition I was a loser. When that same girl I joined drumline for in high school told me to come with her to audition for a drum corPs (yes I pronounced the P) I politely laughed and told her that she was crazy and that I was nowhere near skilled enough to even be considered for an organization as distinguished and profound as the Crossmen. (I am from the Philadelphia area and Crossmen held this incredible aura over everything I knew about drum corPs) Alas though, in another pathetic attempt to get this girl I was still crazy about, I followed her to an audition and after 3 incredibly stressful camps of just waiting to be cut... it never happened. I was never cut. (ironically, she was, hah) I understand I'm ranting now but I swear I'm getting to my point. So, 2 summers of drum corPs later I have come to this conclusion. That first summer of corps, I came home from Madison a completely changed, brand new person. I returned from tour a new man. The summer had completely and utterly changed everything I was and everything I believed in and stood for. It changed how I acted, how I dressed, how I thought, how I worked, how I played, how I treated others and how I treated myself. I had an incredibly renewed passion for improving myself and others around me. On the plane ride home from Madison I decided that music was what I wanted to do for the rest of my life. I transferred schools, changed my major, moved out of my parents house and finally worked up the courage to tell this girl I had loved for years (the same one from high school) how I felt. I know this all sounds incredibly cheesy, but that summer ultimately took the loser I was and made me somebody. It gave me something to be proud of. It gave me something special. Before I left for my new school in August of '06, my mentor and very dear friend told me how proud of me he was for what he watched me accomplish over the summer, even though I know he didn't understand the activity at all. Two months later he was diagnosed with late stage leukemia. He flew across the country against doctors orders to see me perform in the Rose Bowl this summer. He passed away in September 2007. Now that it's nearing 3:30 AM on Christmas Eve (Christmas Day now I suppose), and I'm nearing the end of my story, I can say that the 2 (soon to be 3) summers of drum corps I have been priviledged enough to experience have given me so much that no amount of trying to describe it to you could even come close to what it has meant to me. I am 2 semesters away from graduating with a music degree and am planning on proposing, to that same high school sweet heart who got me first to play drums, on New Years Eve. The performances, rehearsals, laughs, tears, sprained ankles, sore backs, smelly buses and sweltering heat has taught me about so much more than beating a drum and marching a set. It's given me strength, confidence, passion, and above all, an appreciation for everything and everyone around me that makes what I love to do possible. I miss my friend very dearly, and I know that my performance Saturday night on Lucas Oil Field will be for him, for my family, and for every person who has ever supported what I love to do. I know this was incredibly long. If you made it all the way through, kudos. Thanks for reading. I hope you all have a very merry Christmas.

'06, I think it was in Massachusettes somewhere, I wanna say the Bristol parade but I'm not sure. "Let's give a huge thank you to the Crossman Drum & Bugle Band from Allentown, PA!!!"

Mwahaha I was never on scaffolding crew. But a dude I marched with in '06 fell from the top of our scaffolding all the way down through to the bottom (about a 20 foot drop), hitting all kinds of metal poles along the way. He was shaken up, but ultimately ok. We laughed. (after we made sure he was ok) Good times. I miss that year. I was a bus loader that year. And actually have been a bus loader every summer I've marched (in 3 different corps). I think it might just be a bass drum thing. I've actually been curious if most drum corps had bass drums bus load, or if it was just a coincidence that I landed that job all 3 years. Any insight? Comparitively though, I'd much rather bus load than be on field lining or scaffolding crew. <shudder> Many a time field liners go with no floor time. Right off the bus to the field and by the time they finish, it's breakfast time. Terrible.

That's a really interesting thought about the Civil War and Reconstruction and such. I have no idea what-so-ever about anything surrounding the beginnings of the activity like that but I'd be really interested in hearing/readinig about it.

I MIGHT GET ANOTHER YEAR!!!!!!!!! I'm so happy I could poo.

I've always thought The Shawshank Redemption would make for awesome drum corps. I know there was a WGI World colorguard who did a show like this. Although I don't recall which year it was. I don't really follow winterguard but of the shows I've seen that was one of my favs. Anyway. My original point was the pure emotion of being imprisoned, innocently or not, enduring the lifestyle trials and tribulations of prison life, escaping and the like would make for incredibly powerful drum corps.

Memory could prove me wrong but I'm pretty sure it was Center Grove HS who had the music of Halo in their 2006 WGI Scholastic World program. I don't remember what the show was about or called... but I'm sure there was Halo in there. I agree though. Halo is an exceptional example of a huge pool of video game tracks that would make great shows. Zelda, Final Fantasy, Sid Mier's Civilization, Half-Life, Call of Duty, are just a few that come to mind off the top of my head. Great idea though.

In '06 we had 20, 22, 24, 28, 32 (big momma)

I'm currently studying for a degree in Music Business & Recording Technologies. And I plan to march my third year (age-out) this summer.

To answer the op, modern show concepts and designs have and still are definitely getting more complicated. This being said however, it is by no means a bad thing!! On top of that I don't feel that I would like a "simpler" show just so that I could be able to get the whole thing the first time. In fact, having those little details and intricasies (sp?) I think makes shows "favorite shows." For example, one of my favorite shows is Cavies '06, I have probably watched that show more than would be considered healthy yet, every time, EVERY TIME I watch this show, it seems I find something new that I've never noticed before. My reaction? WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every time I notice something I've never noticed before my love for the show grows! In fact, I think that noticing new things every time you watch a show, is part of what makes our favorite shows, "favorite shows!" Upset about this? I would suggest going to more shows! Or buying the dvds! I understand this may not be possible for everyone... but well... tough. :-P I don't think this concept is going away anytime soon.

Everyone should want to march there!!!! HLD

discuss. :-)

Maybe with Aaron at the helm we'll see the return of the real m-effing Crossmen hornline. Now if they could just get a real Crossmen drumline. In unity... bones

When I left Pasadena this summer after my third year of touring and being a one-way Cadets-HATER, I was positive beyond a shadow of a doubt that the best, the most deserving corps had emerged as the 2007 DCI champion. So you can imagine my shock (and remember I am a self-described Cadets-Hater) when after seeing their performance on ESPN, I turned to my friend, also a Cadets-Hater, and said to him. "Wow. The Cadets really should have won." There were so many great drum corps moments in this show. Great energy and passion, fast tempos, cool drill, sweet music, a drumline that threw down and a freaking LOUD hornline (I had my tv on the same volume level for BD and Cadets, the difference was incredible). I guess what I'm getting at here is that I realized last night that the Cadets program this year was superior in so many ways that it's sad that they didn't take it home. I realize why this probably happened, there was an incredible uproar over the design of the show and whatnot, and most of us know already how much of a politcs game DCI has become in recent years, so it doesn't really surprise me that they didn't win. I do wish that the next time you watch Cadets '07 try as best you can (I know it's hard) to block out the "Athlete's of God" and the whining about not being a cool kid in high school and just watch the drum corps. Wow. It's a shame that I really feel the show would have still made sense without narration, and I definitley think it would have been possible to portray the same story through music and drill and not spoken word. It's a shame to think what this show could have been or what the corps could have accomplished, if they had just unplugged. Much love. Congrats to everyone this year.

I don't have the energy to read through all 13 pages of sun block advice so forgive me if this has been mentioned already. I have had some of the worst sun burn experiences you'll ever hear over the course of my life and I strongly believe that my survival is entirely thanks to Water Babies SPF 50 sun block. It's sun block that's meant for children under the age of 3 or something like that. I put it on 2 or 3 times a day during spring training and never had a single problem with sun burn. At the end of the summer I was still as dark as a... well... you can finish that out. Some great advice in this thread for rookies. Best of luck avoiding the sun to all this summer!!!!

Little tidbit for those of you who may not have been at both PSW prelims and finals. But that part with the clowns head getting chopped off was new for finals night. It wasn't there during their prelims performance. I'm a big WGI guy though and I have to agree, that Father Ryan's show was absolutely the most entertaining show I have ever seen from any class of WGI lines. INCLUDING Independent World. I saw both their prelims and finals performances and my gut hurt from laughing so hard after both of their performances! The break-dancing fat man = BRILLIANT!!! Man Eating Chicken + the KFC bucket at the end = HOLY CRAP!!!!! Props to Father Ryan for once again setting the standard for GE in PSW. Anyone catch RCC?! IMO the 2nd best use of GE. (Show was called Memoirs: A Collection of First Times (or something like that) and at the end they brought out an 8 year old (who I met in the lot and will have the best chops in DCI in 10 years or so) who played a mini-snare drum! What brilliant design!!!! In conclusion: Those of you who have rejected or have neglected to give WGI a chance, you are surely missing out on an incredible field of musical performance. IMO 2007 has been the best year for WgI in a long time! Wow! What a weekend! <edited for typos>

Nevermind. I'm dumb.

I'm hearing somewhat of a differnt story being told. All may not be well down south.

There are some truly legendary rivalries in professional and collegiate sports, Duke/UNC, Cowboys/Niners, Sox/Yankees, Penn St/Ohio St Does the drum corps community have anything to offer to this group of classic rivalries? Can we find rivalries like those above in drum corps? Who? When? Why?

Saw a high school winterguard from PA do a show with this music. Very intense. Very cool. Looking forward to it.