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I think I still have mine (from my freelancer days) stored away somewhere, I guess it's as good as lost. I'd kinda like to find one too. Not sure where I would wear it though. I guess I could add it to the punk rock drum corps jacket I've been building over the years.

yep, that's how I discovered it, saw it by accident in 79. Loved it so much I started dreaming about it.

If I may express my thoughts.... Yes there were changes but not enough in the right direction imo. BD is already performing their show with inhuman precision, I can't see their score moving up without making some kind of change, solos, surprise ending...something. To many fans, the cadets show is a stinker due to the narration and they still right on the heals of BD. If they change the narration and it truly moves the crowd, I can see their ge score going up and pushing them over the top. Basically make it cool or bd will take the championship. I expect a lot of changes tonight.

Watching the Scouts pull things together was the most exciting part of the season for me. I hope they are proud of what they have done. During the show at quarters you could really feel the energy coming off the field. Now they just need to come back next year and recruit, recruit, recruit.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, woodwinds? really? this is Hopkins idea?

Dead? no way, it's not exactly the way I want it but who am I? I aged out a long time ago. I just wish it was cheaper so more people could be involved.

I personally think the negative energy will only make them stronger, though that last night as well. As a person who's been booed on occasion, I can speak from experience. Still though, I think most of the booing (at least in the theatre) was aimed at the delay, and there was more joking about it than anything, even Rondo laughed. I really doubt if there are many DC fans who hate the Cadets. The whole thing actually made me respect them that much more.

Hey i remember that, I watched it from the back of the field.

Dangit, "the why do corps hate the Cadets thread was removed." Someone suggested it was, I think there is a lot more to it than that. When I marched in the 84, I didn't like them. We (my friends and I) made fun of them all season, they were different, maybe they were a little too intellectual for me, I was pretty immature. When I watched them at prelims that season, I was blown away. I'd seen them all season long but I didn't get it until the end. It was a pretty humbling experience really, a moving performance that I will allways remember. I think finally getting them was a big part of my growing up as a musician. So, I think their intellectualism comes across nerdy because it challenges us to move outside of ourselves. They have been that way for as long as I can remember.

Booing is not cool but I wish people would stop referring to them and calling them kids. They are not kids, they are young but they are not kids, they are professional entertainers they don't need to be coddled or protected, that in it's self is (to me) disrespectful. Professionals in the entertainment business are booed and heckled sometimes, they can take it.

Hopkins did the right thing last night. I'm not connected to the corps in any way, I don't even like show this season but I'm totally with Hopkins on this one. I respect what he did. As for the booing, big deal, in the real world people boo. Some may have been simply booing the delay.

Leave now? the show at Cinemark in Tulsa does not appear to start until 6:00 The will only show the top 17 unless I'm mistaken

Just bought my $19 ticket for the show in Tulsa. At 4:pm I'll slither out of the office and drive the 100+ miles to a movie theatre where I will sit for at least 4 hours, my GF thinks I'm outta my mind. She never marched.

I missed inspections by one year, but I don't think so. The Freelancer sops were Kings, just like the ones we had in Sky Ryders. The only real difference was the Skys were silver and Freelancers were nickel, I think the Sky Ryder horns sounded better. The first valve slide was allways in the out position, you would mash it in for D's and other notes that would play flat (as I recall). You could not play illegal notes on these horns (low E flat A flat or D flat). We had some contras that could play those notes in Sky Ryders, yeah they didn't want the judges to know about that. I'm sure someone else around here remembers the details better than me, my brother actually still has an old sop at home, I bet he'd remember.

Oh God no! it a bugle band!

Ok well what, pray tell, did I play then? We called them bugles, the manufacture called them bugles, dci called them bugles. We called this a soprano bugle. What would you call it? This is what we called an alto bugle,

How did I know this would eventually happen? I played a bugle man, we called them bugles, the manufacture called them bugles, dci called them bugles, bu·gle1 /ˈbyugəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[byoo-guhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -gled, -gling. –noun 1. a brass wind instrument resembling a cornet and sometimes having keys or valves, used typically for sounding military signals. If you want to open another thread on what is and what is not a bugle go ahead but I won't have any more to add, silly argument and off topic.

narration? don't like it but they might win anyway, they are that good, and the show has heart, even if it is kinda cheesy.

Maybe for some corps who can pull it off it's risky. A I recall, we changed a lot of drill for finals in 85 and it basically crashed and burned, I didn't know how bad till I watched the video. We were allready sitting 12th so I guess it was worth the risk for us at the time.

Were they bugles? There was once a tradition of bugle corps playing bugles, maybe you do not value that tradition but I did. I was disapointed that others did not respect that tradition so I can understand how someone like the OP must have been disapointed seeing some things change. I don't hate modern DC, most changes have had a positive effect, I just happen to prefer the bugles and maybe a few other things. Not all traditions are worth keeping and it's really the next generation who determins what stays and what goes, not you or me. I can accept that.

I was told that he eventually had them fixed, don't remember the details, it was a long time ago. Maybe it never happened and we were misled as a joke, a joke that took 20 yrs to finally become funny. If it were true it seems like someone else would know about it. I did ask my brother, he remembers the same story so I didn't just dream it up. I'm going to try and contact the guy who told us, if he's still alive, I think he's living in Idaho.

I don't know, maybe not. In 84, freelancers were talking about 3 valve horns, I didn't really like the idea then either, but that's just me.

Ok right, you didn't have the two valve horns. I was referring to the tradition of drum and bugle corps fielding bugles (excluding the 3 valve kind that we call trumpets, tubas ect).

Hey, I remember learining about Vaclav Nelhybel in College. I recall our conductor telling us that Vaclav Nelhybel had filed some of his front teeth to points. Raaarr!!!! Does anyone know if this is true?

Nothing sounded loud to me (at the two shows I attended). Good? yes. Loud? no way. Cadets were the closest to being loud. Then again, I spent the 90's touring with a grunge rock band, nothing sounds loud to me anymore... except the ringing in my ears when I lay down at night.