GUARDLING

By who though..GB/ Lancers? or DCI

Perfectly natural, especially if you havent been involved in a very long time, Just enjoy your own thing..thats great !

So funny, I remember most people hating Star back then and now they are the best thing since sliced bread......lol....I remember the day after finals the screams " IT"S NOT DRUM CORPS" and now look. Ive never really ever been GA GA over BD although I do like them this year,BUT I do think they are defining the next phase of Drum Corps this year. A new Dawn I think. JMO

Great Post, Ive been trying to say the same in several posts. I think you may have said it better. People fear change or feel if it does its not their Drum Corps. Without repeating, I'm with ya

I know your area very well. I still do not believe the drum corps thing of yesteryear is even remotly possible, especially with the cost involved. We were always a small niche compared to other kids activities and as I said , especially in an area unlike Calif. or down south having winters to deal with how do you gather these kids and rehearse. Maybe it takes someone to try...who knows, Maybe even if its just a few kids. A dream is cool. Good luck

there i would agree ...for sure

It will need something thats for sure..lol YEAHHHH we agree...

Ok if you hear it or not my friend its there. Maybe we run in different circles. I have sat on a WGI board so I can tell you its an issue that has to be delt with almost every year

I think youre right although I dont think it will be the last.. but could be the last as we know it.

I Actually got 1 recently BUT I refused also but not because of the G7 because I dont like his personal policies and know where he is really coming from. I will support a member which I guess may be the same but wont give him the satisfaction. I do give him credit for keeping the corps alive all these years but he seems to be more out of control lately ( ask some volunteers )... I usually try to stay more controlled in all this opinion based forum but sorry This one just got to me. Good luck this week to all the corps and yes Cadets also.

In WGI ? are you kidding? Its a hot topic all the time. Maybe because you have some insight to percussion.. But with guards it's been huge, with photos as well as recordings of performances.

Youre right and many WGI participants are fed up with that process. So maybe it is time for a change..lol

IMO of course they would.. Do you actually believe among directors this is someithing new in the way of the attitude of some directors? Do you actually think they havent witnessed this before. This is nothing new to most who have been in the inner circle. YEs maybe not publically with this proposal but they have seen it for many many years way back to 72. And yes many still supported them.

Maybe youre right BUT you can reast assure that part of this was discussed by the 7 and a solution decided. WGI tries this all the time although in that case I think its time WGI guards and percussion stand up to them and say You know this is my guard or drum line. You are making a bundle off me , dont tell me I cant use my own produts to do what I want when I want. MAybe thats part of this whole thing. Taking charge of your own destiny and controlling what is yours.

I bet they can. IF its a non DCI sponsored event. Otherwise DCI would be able to keep those other things off youtube and they cant

I dont think DCI owns the names at all Maybe the product for distribution, which corps give permission and Im sure in some court can get that back after a certain time also. DCI is like a co-op not the surpreme owner of anything. MAybe Im wrong in this Ive pretty much stayed on the teaching side of DCI BUT if it is true that DCI does own then an even bigger mistake IMO was made back in 72

TOTALLY...always have

Well, I dont say it was exact BUT to your question. Im not trying to prove anything other than the fact that Drum Corps at that time was interested in taking care of themselves and NOT carrying the weight of others of the anchor of the VFW or Legion. This part seems the same. JUst making the comparison that BYLINE posted and agreeing with them , not making a choice of which I like or dislike.

Youre right but as I have said in other posts , Sometimes we think what we did was better and cant be competed with and we hold onto what in actualality we do not own. It's a shame that in many aspects the people who come before us are not respected enough BUT on the other hand it's also a shame that we want to hold onto what WE thought was best and with that we become cut out.

You are right but watch how you are ignored with the statement or people will say that WELLLLLL it wasnt excluding anyone, which it kind of did, you had no rights unless you made it in. Alot is the same just with a 2010 twist. People will defend the " Brotherhood " thing and alot of what I read from people it certainly is selective memory. But I guess we all do that when we look back to our youth. Wasnt it all wonderful, better, more entertaining, cheaper, better choices, more tradition, Well I guess todays kid will do the same. ANd was it all those things , well many of them sure but it wasnt all roses either. Its all Psych 101.

Those days are long gone my friend. Although it was nice, community involvement ( keeping kids off the streets ) WOW i havnt heard that phrase in years..lol.....Look around Kids arent on the streets...They are in front of video screens, computers, texting, on i- pods, cells phones, many in underage clubs NONE of this of which we had a mere 20 or 30 years ago. Kids have many more choices than we did, hanging out at the boys club or a church hall.is not an option now. Even if you could get the support of a church , VFW or hall will you get those kids like years ago? I doubt it. You going to get a church to donate a hall or finance this project. NEVER happen. I have friends teaching winter programs paying in excess of 15 grand for a weekend rehearsal facility for the winter months. It's a new world, like it or not Our days of that type of thing , which does bring back very good memories are gone forever I'm afraid.

Love to see Pioneer push into maybe 20th

OOPS...lmfao......a type O I meant such not suck....hmmmmmm ok Im waiting say it .....lol

im from THAT era but I still dont get why people think corps have to keep the same ole same ole in 2010 Yeah I remember it fondly sure It would bring back a good memory or 2 but how boreing ( IMO ) with whats being done today I wish I were able to do suck a creative product. GEZZZ I look back at some videos....( early video..lol..) and say GEZZ what did we even sweat about , we hardly moved? Is it to keep in tradition? ok maybe keep tradition but dont let it hold you back and sometimes it can do that. JMO..ughhhhh

I've been saying this from the beginning, a typical business tactic. Then they get what They REALLY wanted and the others who have been opposed think they won. MAN transparent to me anyway. Seen it soooooo many times.