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I believe..... 1) There should be an ensemble judge 2) The field judge should not be in the stands BUT.......... If there is an ensemble judge- does that mean the field judge would have to be on the field all the time??

In Cadets when we used Evans the metal rim would pull away from the rest of the head- they would still work but the head itself would be falling apart. It also took forever to find out what combination of foam would make the drums sound decent from the front sideline. - They sounded ok from up front but they sounded like crap from up close. They were very dead and thuddy sounding. To our normal standards they sounded like BD's drums not cranked as high as they go. It sounded bad from up front. Maybe I'm just used to Remo's with some foam caulked to the outside but thats the way to go in my opinion.

Well..........we could have 11 1/2 minutes of whole and half notes only, and it would be the cleanest thing out there. Kinda defeats the purpose, doesn't it? So basically you are describing Cavaliers horn book from 2002! J/K We already resolved this issue- please look above. Having a good book with lots of style changes and musical phrasing also helps. What I believe though is that the top 4 maybe 5 drumlines demand are all about the same. Each line has different parts of their show which are very demanding either physically, musically, or ensembly. So basically by finals week the judge really is just picking the cleanest line for the top spot that night.

I'm telling you that roll was dirty- they were right in the front with nothing else going on.

How about Fred Sanford is dead. RIP. That definetly contradicts the fact that he will be a "consultant."

The Cadets are getting drums every year now. So they are selling the drums. The Cadets actually have to buy all of their pit equipment at price and they're selling that stuff as well.

Pearls bass drums are definetly superior. They have the perfect number of air holes. Yamaha and premier definetly do not have enough air holes so all the air gets trapped inside the drum and its not loud at all. Thats why the scouts cut holes in the bottom of their drums. And of course the deep shell tenors are also a cut above the rest in terms of sound.

What's wrong with their pearl drums other than they are a little crooked.=) Are they going back to match grip? What is it?

That has nothing to do with what this topic is about. I saw Tori chopping out by SCV's truck after a show. She was good! I was impressed!

It's definetly not the "cleanest line wins". Being the cleanest gets you points in technique and execution, but you need to have a musical book as well. One thing that has helped the Cadets the past few years has also been the style changes they have used. It's impressive to a judge when a drumline can play in 3 or 4 differents styles throughout one show. It all factors in.

In BD 95- that roll was definetly not clean.

Sorry to break up this love fest that this has turned into but FYI- There are now BD clips on the Vicfirth site under the education pull down menu!

What the Cadets do= Use a whitemax on top and a clear plastic Remo head on bottom. Crank the top and the bottom head pretty tightly. Then wrap up a napkin and tape it to the bottom head. The Cadets also only use 7 strands of snares instead of the 14 that come with the Yamaha drums. It took alot of playing around to find the right tension for the snares on the drums though. Heres a secret though- If you play clean- the judges will think the tuning sounds great!! It works every time.

How about Timp. not Tymp- there is no such thing as tymp!

The Cadets always have the best Ballads. Ex. 01, 99, 98, 87, 96, 95, 94, 93, 91, etc.