ContraFart

So I'm not wrong in saying that championships are won in the fall and winter, not the summer anymore

My entire argument is that the top 4 perform at relatively the same level. So it's not performance that is winning, it's design

So I am either saying the same thing over and over again, or I am constantly moving the goal posts. Which is it?

If BD goes from 4th to 1st in brass, especially against the near perfection of Crowns brass, I will freaking lose it.

Well if one corps is going to win 60% of the time, instead of promoting some sort of parity (which I know is impossible), they just gave out more prizes.

If that is the case, how is it a positive thing?

I appreciate that perspective and it does give me something to think about, but there is still something about winning it on the field that means something to me. If 2015 Crown can lose it on the field, how come it now seems impossible to win it on the field?

I didn't feel this way about the Cavies run in the ots. I thought their shows were breathtaking. The drill was the coolest innovation in the activity I have ever seen. The percussion was sublime and while I never "loved" the horn books, I thought they fit the shows very well. There are a couple of things different about the Cavies run though. First I think while they were dominant, I believe 2002 was their only undefeated season. Second, Cadets and BD were always on their heels and won 3 or 4 times in that decade. It still always felt that there was an open competition that was up for grabs. The season wasn't over in Broken Arrow. It doesn't feel like it's an open competition anymore. I feels like DCI belongs to BD and if anyone wants beat them, it would take something that changes the foundation of the activity (i.e. Bluecoats 2016 or SCV 2018). A universally loved and perfectly performed show won't do it anymore and it makes me sad

Is it a competition? If they are being outscored they are losing. But I understand what you are trying to say.

Well since the corps I think is the best every year is not the same, I do not think it's bias. My favorite show this year is not what I think is the best show either.

It doesn't matter, I have lost all faith in the concept of competition in this activity. I just have to accept the fact that BD is going to win and my favorite shows are going to lose and any knowledge I have after 30 years means nothing because I have no I idea what I am talking about.

7 out of 11 judges, judge either effect or analysis. Should design have this much weight on the score?

And the judges do that almost every year and I do not understand why.

So my 30 years in the activity and learning from DCI hall of famers really does mean nothing. I guess to beat BD, you have to be better than them in the fall and winter and out design them before you even have auditions.

So does Crowns, so does Bluecoats, do does BAC.

But doesn't higher field scores mean that other corps are executing better? At least musically?

So the inference is that no other corps do that. BD is the only corps that has variety in musical styles and visual movement. They have the only design team that can create great GE in the minds of the judges. Yes I am being sarcastic, but that is how it sounds when people explain why the judges love BD so much. Someone said something like this not meaning to the other day, but I am beginning to think it's true. BD will win or get 2nd every year as the status quo, for anyone to beat them it takes an exponentially special year. Maybe I am just stupid and 30 years around this activity means nothing, but I really thought the top 4 corps were relatively equal in talent and design, but I am wrong. There is something about BD that the judges find superior that I will never understand.

No what that means is that he designers have more control over the outcome than the kids.

Or how about the blow hards on DCP that think that BD is the only corps that has talent or works or plans or has hall of famers on their staff?

Well I for one am ###### that the judges continue to award it. How can you be 4th in 2 out of the 3 performance captions and be nearly 1.5 points ahead? That is asinine to me.

So no other corps plans? No other corps has great teachers? No other corps has talented members? I am so effing sick and tired of the superiority complex of BD.

When 2 out of the 3 performance parts are in 4th place, it seems messed up that you are nearly 1.5 points ahead.

apparently you are not reading the post because I am having some very enlightening conversations with some people. you just want me to blindly believe, and I will not do that. I am looking for the "why" not the "what" and you think I am beating a dead horse because I am not accepting the "what" for what it is. I understand more than you think. I may not agree with it, but I understand it and I take offense to those who treat me like I am stupid because I will not accept the status quo.

No because I actually liked 1993 Star

agree to disagree.