LowBrassman

Apparently you can not read or understand directions...... <**>

Just for clarification the King 1151 WAS NOT copied from the Yamaha 202. The design for the King was done from scratch. The idea was to create a Bb version of the lengendary King K-90 with some modifications. So the designers took an existing K-90 and started there. If I can find the photos of the prototype and the K-90 sitting side by side I will post them. There are a number of differences between the two horns. The King has a bigger bore, bigger bell, and ability to see through the horn to the left while playing. While the later seems like an easy thing to design, it's not. The tubing wrap went through numerous versions until they got it right. Anyway the Yanaha 202 is a good instrument with a good design and I aprreciate the quality of the product. But the King 1151 was born out of the necessity to replace the 1141. Now the 1141 is another story. Lets just say that friends should not let friends play on an 1141... for numerous reasons. :)

2007 Best Visual design ....... SCV.

To answer your question posed in the title of this thread, 2 words....... Human Nature or better yet 1 word... Perspective. It is easier for humans to find fault then it is to find what's right. Most people have no problem telling you what's wrong and being able to communicate it quite easily. Unfortunately most people tend to struggle when it comes to articulating what is right with something. An example could be made comparing the old tick system ( error ) approach of evaluation to the current approach of build up ( achievement ). It's really about how you as person percieve things. If you consistently look for the negative, ( the error ) then that is what you will get. But if you look for the good in things, (the what's right with this) you will be amazed at what you find. If you don't believe me try it out in your everyday life. Switch your perception and only look for the what's right with this (achievement) and see what happens. You might be pleasantly surprised. :)

FANTASTIC.... I had forgotten about 1977 section shirt....CLASSIC

I couldn't agree with you more. I too have often felt that the activity in the "old days" trained some really great players. That is not to say that the training isn't great these days it's just different. These individuals were just great instinctive players who played with great heart. As a classically trained musician I have often times envied their very special gift. MYNWA DC

Jerry, I hear you brother. All three of these guys were great players. Perry is the person to this day that I credit for turning me in to a T.O.P. fan. Great velvety tone and warmth of sound. As for Dave, well I lived with Dave and his family in 1979 and he was in my wedding party. Just a great player and all around great guy. Clay another great guy that fortunately I have had the privilage of teaching with in the past. The secret to Madisons great hornlines of the past has always been its baritone section. Sure everyone thinks of the screaming soprano's but it was the baritone section that "shattered the concrete". MYNWA Dave C.

The art work is great. I vote all green and heck how about a black and silver sash like back in 1975.

Is this the Joe Allison look a like contest?

Area 51 :sshh:

Elsa's

Sparticus, Canon, New World, Elsa's

I loved working with the Regiment in 02, 03, 05, 06. In 04 I went back to the "darkside" to see if the fire was still there to judge anymore, it wasn't. So it was back to teaching in 05. While the tuba's ( Contra's ) were my boys and girl(s), I took great pleasure in working with all of the low brass section. Heck I even got to traumatize the mello's every so often. If my memory is correct you aged out in 03. If so I'm sure you can remember one of those "special" moments. ( Remember.... I know where you live! ) :o aka "The Pitbull" DC

The world can only handle one at a time. DC

If my memory serves me correctly the .1 was due to a penalty for a dropped rifle.

Troll Alert :feednotroll:

Mr. Boo, Please stick to your Cavalier alumni obligations and leave matters concerning the internal workings of the Madison Scouts to those entrusted with that responsibility. You do not have all of facts and your continued communtary does nothing more than "stir the pot". Signed a Madison Alumni 79-82

I find it interesting the manner in which Mr. Boerma decided to notify the world of his decision. Perhaps his announcement should have been communicated through official Scout channels.

Barry Hudson...... now teaching Crown along with some of his former students and staff from Star.

Thank you for your opinion. :) Now push the call light and tell the nurse your ready for your medication.

You are correct, however the issue still is one of numbers management. The process of Ranking and Rating performing units is a difficult task. Attention must be payed to the number of tenths placed between units in a contest so that one judge does not negate the entire panels evaluation. This is called numbers management. George Oliviaro developed a white paper years ago concerning the value of a tenth. It is still used today as a foundation of the adjudiation process. It takes time for new judges to develop the skill to do this thing called "Judging" . Mr. Jenkins is still learning to apply those principles. I wish that I could go into even more detail surrounding my comments but as I stated in my first posted I will not do so on this forum. I will now return to my lurking mode for the remainder of the season. Enjoy the next few weeks it is going to be a WILD ride and remember to... Celebrate the Performers :)

Relax, I'm happy for the folks from Canton. It is about the performers. I will however stick with my earlier comment for reasons that I will not go into on this forum. The issue I posed was that of an inexperienced judge not understanding the value of a tenth as part of the evaluative process. Numbers management is a tricky thing that takes time to develop and understand as an adjudicator. Mr. Jenkins is still learning. Celebrate the performers.... :)

I was not infering that a little Recap reading occured, however now that you bring it up........ and yes Coats could be just that entertaining! Good for them :)

Judge issue to night: Matt Jenkins: GE Music.... Coats 17.5 PR 16.8 Last Night Joe Allison had PR and BD Tied in GE Music at a 16.8 I would tend to go with Joe Allison on this one. He has judged numerous times at Finals on the GE Music Sheet

WRONG..... PR 17.7 Coats 17.4 Regiment still undefeated!