Jeff Ream

1986 1994 1982 1988 2007 1976 1977 1984 1995 2003

I'm sure DCi could try more, but the corps themselves could do a hell of a lot more. as long as they seem to be content with being second class citizens, you will not see change. the change must come from within

and just as annoying is the posturing of some BD fans both can get over it (edited because i hit add reply before i was done)

still waiting for an answer on this

newsflash: BD won. the scores can not be changed. like it or not, they did. accept it. life is too short to ##### about numbers when you have stadium issues to ##### about

newsflash: BD won. the scores can not be changed. like it or not, they did. accept it. life is too short to ##### about numbers when you have stadium issues to ##### about

i've played it a few times

they sell red bull and vodka? game on!!!

i think it's a great idea which is why I posted it. I want to be sure i get my $500 worth next year

that reminds me...that alumni show announcer. now there's an issue

98 Bluecoats, 96 Crown

one of my concerns were accoustics, but i didnt ask about the roof being opened

BD had better competition. 2-6 were all capable champions in many other years. in 2002, nothing after Cavies would have won in other years

I'd say there were complaints about more than just the roof. But...maybe this will create the chance to explore other options to you baking in the sun. or...if the roof does open, take the advice you have given to countless others on here: stay home, it creates better seating opportunities for us

you had me til you mentioned the 93 Blue Jays

Bert was huge. Always smiling, always with great stories. we kept those alumni meetings going into the mid 90s. He always came around. I remember the 95 banquet....we had a table with the at that time last 4 charter members left. I think Bert may have been the last

a legend within our family, former director and charter member of the Westshoremen Drum and Bugle Corps, Bert Olley passed last Friday Bertram "Bert" W. Olley 85 of Camp Hill was called home to be with the Lord un- expectedly on Friday, August 7, 2009. He was born in Ranshaw Northum-berland Co. son of the late Russell and Edna Barnes Olley. He graduated from Coal Twp. High School class of 1941, Shamokin. He truly loved his country and his God, serving in the U.S. Navy, Pacific Theater, World War II. He was a former real estate agent and member of the Home Builders Assoc. of Harrisburg. He was a member of the NRA, and served as a former E. Pennsboro Commissioner from May 20 1987 till January 4, 1988. He was a loyal follower of Rev. Robert Schuller and the Crystal Cathedral, Garden Grove, CA. He was member of Masonic Perry Lodge #458 of Marysville, VFW Post 6704, Mechanicsburg and the West Shore Chamber of Commerce. He was a Charter Member and former Director of the West Shoremen Drum and Bugle Corps where he was very active in 1952 when they were awarded National Drum and Bugle Corp. Championship. He is survived by his loving wife of 44 years: Joan R. Olley and two son's; Donald R. Olley and his wife Susan J. of Bowie, Maryland and Wayne L. Olley and his wife Mary A. of Marysville. Two daughter's; Bonnie L. Harbold and her husband Barry L. of Enola and Sandra A. Olley of Enola. A sister; Arlene Canniff of Philadelphia and a brother; Joseph Shanahan of Manhattan Beach, CA. Five grandson's; Donald W. Hostetler Jr. of Mechanicsburg, Donald R. Olley of Hummelstown, Brian E. Hostetler of Enola, Matthew W. Olley of Steelton and Mark H. Olley of Marysville. Three granddaughter's; Kimberly L. Wood of Enola, Julia B. Olley of Marysville and Tammie L. Hoffner of Hummelstown and thirteen great grandchildren. Bert was predeceased by a brother Donald R. Olley. Funeral service will be held at the Musselman Funeral Home, Lemoyne on Thursday, Aug. 13, 2009 at 2 P.M. with The Rev. Gwenn L. Trout officiating. A Masonic Service will precede the funeral service, starting at 1:45 P.M. Burial with Military Honors will be in Rolling Green Memorial Park, Camp Hill. A viewing will be held at the funeral home on Thursday from 12:30 P.M. till 1:45 P.M. The family request memorial contributions be made to charity of your choice. Musselmanfuneral.com www.pennlive.com/obits

margin of victory is telling but to be honest, 94 BD was so far out ahead of everyone that their scores leveled off and others got closer.

As you all know, DCI has taken many hits on here for issues concerning Finals week in Indy. As a follow up to an email I sent DCI on Sunday, I received this email today: Jeffrey, We thank you for sharing your thoughts and for your continued support of the organizations which comprise Drum Corps International. Later this month, we will be launching an online customer satisfaction survey, providing our valued fans with the opportunity to contribute important feedback regarding the 2009 World Championships in Indianapolis. Our goal is to provide an exceptional experience for the more than 5,000 performers taking the field of competition and for each of their loyal fans and supporters. With your assistance, we will work to continue to improve the quality of the World Championships as a celebration of the outstanding achievements of the world's most elite marching music ensembles. Thank you again for your continued support of Drum Corps International and its member corps. Here you go folks......keep your eyes out on DCI.ORG....this will be your chance to let your thoughts be heard.

ensemble music is suppose to be all encompassing. but often it is very brass focused

and all of the doubling on the low end which was overpowering

exactly. prelims is a show. were there judges there? yes. did they use the DCI scoring system of the times? yes. Did a corps beat Madison? yes. i love 75 Scouts to this day. but they were beaten once. doesn't matter where, under the DCI approved system of that time they were beaten. not tied like 2000 Cadets...beaten

so then no one should have dropped