VOReason Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Composers use speech/narration/singers to portray things all the time in music...Stravinsky did it... Copland did it.. Prokofiev did it.. Barber did it... Everyone has done it. I don't see the problem. Please tell me we're not comparing (and lest I forget, contrasting) Hopkins to Stravinsky, Copland, Prokofiev and Barber!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casaba Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I see it this way... the show may score very well come finals night and thats great for the performers. They worked just as hard as the kids in every other Corps but I don't see this going down as an all time great or favorite to most people and will be easily dismissed in future years I'm somewhat neutral about the Corps but the show just doesn't allow me to get past the fact that I don't care to listen to NPR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tez Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Composers use speech/narration/singers to portray things all the time in music...Stravinsky did it... Copland did it.. Prokofiev did it.. Barber did it... Everyone has done it. I don't see the problem. BTW: That Viagra joke.......not good Yes but they have not used it that much. As I have stated before... over 20% of finals shows since it has been allowed have used amplified voice. You cannot tell me 20% of these of the stuff these composers wrote uses speech/narration. Now if this frequency drops off pretty soon, I'll be happy, but 1 in 5 shows seems like a whole lot to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Blatch Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Wow. I have never seen such a lopsided outcome. A ratio of more than 12 to 1 people are indicating that they don't like the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCIHasBeen Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) Composers use speech/narration/singers to portray things all the time in music...Stravinsky did it... Copland did it.. Prokofiev did it.. Barber did it... Everyone has done it. I don't see the problem. BTW: That Viagra joke.......not good I don't remember hearing Prokofiev's "Breast Cancer Symphony" ... If I did I would have probably found it just as much of a bummer as Cadets show. Sure, you could compare these types of programs to something like "A Lincoln Portrait", but it won't hold up. Ultimately, "Pursuit of Happiness" is a very flawed work that reduces the corps proper to support players to the narrators. Setting the questionable content of the narrative aside, it still doesn't work. Edited June 29, 2008 by DCIHasBeen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Blatch Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 I don't remember hearing Prokofiev's "Breast Cancer Symphony" ... If I did I would have probably found it just as much of a bummer as Cadets show. LOL I can see it next year. The Cadets are pleased to announce their 2009 Production: "The Pursuit of Comfort: Nightmares of Prostate Cancer Without a Cushion Seat." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tez Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 LOLI can see it next year. The Cadets are pleased to announce their 2009 Production: "The Pursuit of Comfort: Nightmares of Prostate Cancer Without a Cushion Seat." WOW..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanksregular Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Please tell me we're not comparing (and lest I forget, contrasting) Hopkins to Stravinsky, Copland, Prokofiev and Barber!!! Yes and no, no arranger or designer in drum corps can touch those guys, but I still think it's a reasonable comparison. I'm just saying that the Cadets should be able to do what they want. I don't remember hearing Prokofiev's "Breast Cancer Symphony" ... If I did I would have probably found it just as much of a bummer as Cadets show.Sure, you could compare these types of programs to something like "A Lincoln Portrait", but it won't hold up because, ultimately, "Pursuit of Happiness" is a very flawed work that reduces the corps proper to support players to the narrators. Setting the questionable content of the narrative aside, it still doesn't work. Side note: I'm not going to lie, I laughed pretty hard at "Prokofiev's Breast Cancer Symphony". I wish I'd thought of that. Anyway, I'll have to watch the Cadets a couple more times to see if I truly think it's bad, for now I think it's pretty good, just not as good as last year. But hey, it's still June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmathis Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Up until the season started, I watched a lot of the All-Access clips and thought to myself... "wow. this is going to be one of the best, most aggressive Cadets shows in years." I guess I was wrong... I have a feeling that this year's Cadets show will turn into another Cadets 2006, but just not quite as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHSnare Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Wow. I have never seen such a lopsided outcome.A ratio of more than 12 to 1 people are indicating that they don't like the program. I'm sure they are much worse than that. Two of my family members and one's girlfriend also agree that this shows concept/design is awful. The friends I had over last night thought it was ridiculous to hear all the talking and wanted me to turn it off and this was for a few their first major viewing of drum corp. Like I said, this corp can play, and I don't feel like I am getting everything I should out of them because they're to busy playing quiet chords in the background while people two people are jabbering over them. And don't even get me started on the ending......I'm sure its going to be changed but I don't even want to be started on that...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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