melligene Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Well, this is an "I've been told..." also, but I have a lot of respect for the guy that did the telling. When you look at spec, bear in mind that most manufacturers give bore specs as measured at the valve cluster, and don't often publish flare rates. (at least I've not seen them). ...Brain exploded again............is that possible...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.morgus Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ...Brain exploded again............is that possible...? Is what possible? Measuring the diameter of the tubing at the point it enters the valve cluster is ideed possible. Of course, it is easier to do before the horn is assembled... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mchromik Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Wow, not this science fair project again! As far as G bugles go, I'm going to be a homer here and say the King K series. The K-90 Contra is still worshiped in some circles and I am yet to see or hear a euphonium as impressive as the K-80s. The K-50 mello was light and agile in feel, yet still capable of a dark sweet tone. For whatever reason the three valve bugles I have played just don't seem to have the same feel or response as the two valve Kings. I might feel different if I spent a season or two on them. The F mello I play now is far easier to control, though ponderous compared the G mello. From a mello player perspective the switch to Bb/F has been better. We are no longer soprano-lite, and now a true dark middle voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathie Wiener Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Oh who cares about the higher voices. Thanks for the laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbie Ellis Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 Wow, not this science fair project again! As far as G bugles go, I'm going to be a homer here and say the King K series. The K-90 Contra is still worshiped in some circles and I am yet to see or hear a euphonium as impressive as the K-80s. The K-50 mello was light and agile in feel, yet still capable of a dark sweet tone. For whatever reason the three valve bugles I have played just don't seem to have the same feel or response as the two valve Kings. I might feel different if I spent a season or two on them. The F mello I play now is far easier to control, though ponderous compared the G mello. From a mello player perspective the switch to Bb/F has been better. We are no longer soprano-lite, and now a true dark middle voice. I'm with you. I play a 2 valve King K-20 G soprano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimF-LowBari Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 ....my Brain just exploded........... But if you saw a pile of horns and someone asked you how to weld them together (or cut them apart) bet you'd know the answer. Excuse me.... someone asked yinz... LOL times like this I'm glad my musical knowledge is limited to looking at sheet music and knowing what buttons to push down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j.morgus Posted July 8, 2009 Share Posted July 8, 2009 The F mello I play now is far easier to control, though ponderous compared the G mello. From a mello player perspective the switch to Bb/F has been better. We are no longer soprano-lite, and now a true dark middle voice. This has definately been the most positive aspect of the new instrumentation. As a mello player myself, I can appreciate that the F mello with the Bb high and low voices does give drumcorps their first true alto voice. And really though - Ultratones were the apex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skylinersop16 Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Here's something that I've always wanted to try. G sopranos, F mellos, G baritones and whatever pitch the tuba is in. (Bb or c i dont really know) I think a hornline like that would have a nice blend of power and tone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-horns Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Alright, thanks for the response, it sounds like the G wouldve been a nice thing to hear in a corp Many alumni corps are still using G horns. You can't always go by a recording because the viceral sound of a G line gets lost in most recordings. You have to experience it live to get the best effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-horns Posted July 9, 2009 Share Posted July 9, 2009 Renegades have varied in size over the years, but I think the average horn line has been in the 40-50 member range. I think the first year Renegades came east, they had 76 horns. But remember that the arranging has much to do with the fullness of sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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