OTGFP951 Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Rule Change: Do not include full 8 caption scoring recaps at all during the season. Only show 3 caption (GE, Visual, Music) Rationale: Protect/maintain integrity and prevent any unearned advancements by undeserving groups. I think we all saw a lot of groups shoot near the top last minute during this last season. By posting 3 caption scores it protects the selections of all directors and allows the season to be more enjoyable as well as fair. Submitted by: Inland Empire Youth Arts Association Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galen Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Proposal: "Legendary Staff" Submitted by: Kadence Rationale: Pending feasibility study by DCPI administration- add an option for acquiring a "legendary" staff member- ie a figure like Jim Ott, Steve Brubaker, George Zingali, Tom Float, etc, that can give a corps an additional point boost in a particular caption for a cost, providing directors with an additional means of competing and providing more options for people who might otherwise be "painted into a corner" with their caption set. Full explanation: Pending feasibility study by DCPI administration, directors would be able to choose ONE and ONLY ONE of their captions to "hire" a legendary staff member. Directors may hire or fire legendary staff members at any point in the season, or may move them from one caption to another. This WOULD count as one of the normal 3 caption changes (or 2 during finals week) in the course of a caption change submission. When the admins tally up the scores for that corps, the legendary staff bonus would take effect in the following ways: GE staff: Adds an extra 0.1 to the chosen GE caption score. Eg: Corps X has Cadets in GE Visual and also has a Legendary Staff Member for GE Visual. The Cadets score an 18.3 in GE Visual on that given night. The Legendary Staff bonus would raise that score to an 18.4 Non-GE staff. Adds an extra 0.25 to the chosen non-GE caption score, BEFORE the total score is weighted and tabulated. In other words it's a net gain of 0.125. Example: Corps Y has Blue Stars in Percussion and also has a Legendary Staff Member for Percussion. Blue Stars score a 15.6 in percussion on that given night (maybe Pipitone was judging ). The Legendary staff bonus raises the Percussion score to a 15.85, which would then be factored into the weight of the overall Music score. Cost: A corps director could hire a Legendary Staff member for a cost of 3 caption points. A corps director may still not exceed their maximum caption salary for their corps by adding a LSM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jehensley Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Rule Change: Caption selections would be from multiple years on non live seasons and would be randomized to get your score for that caption. Rationale: By having multiple Caption selections for each caption, the unpredictability for each show would remain within a specific range, but would be +/- a certain number of points. This could be scripted in the database score program randomizer. This would allow corps' scores to have some umpredicatibiltity while giving the Director some sort of understanding of value of that pick. Example: GE Music Blue Devils (2004, 2006, 2007) Finals scorecs could be 19.70 , 19.00, or 19.80. (based upon real scores from those years) To get the caption points for each corps, average the corps placements over those three years, and then rank them top to bottom and assign them values like a live season. BD took 2nd in 04, 3rd in 06 and 1st in 07. Say they would be averaged #1 for those years, they would be worth 25 points. and then Cavies 24, Cadets 23, etc... down the line. So simply put... You would still choose one corps per caption (as in live seasons) , but their scores would be selected randomly from a three year period of scores (which would be predetermined) for each show. The three year period would be the same for all corps. At each show, the director would not know what year is being used for that show. It would even be possible that different years could be used for the same corps in different captions. This would allow the unpredictablity of a live season and allow the caption selections process to be similar from non to live seasons. Submitted by James Hensley, Crass P.S. It's late, if you need me to cxlear up my thoughts, i can... tomorrow morning :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarOrg Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Rule Change: Caption selections would be from multiple years on non live seasons and would be randomized to get your score for that caption. Rationale: By having multiple Caption selections for each caption, the unpredictability for each show would remain within a specific range, but would be +/- a certain number of points. This could be scripted in the database score program randomizer. This would allow corps' scores to have some umpredicatibiltity while giving the Director some sort of understanding of value of that pick. Example: GE Music Blue Devils (2004, 2006, 2007) Finals scorecs could be 19.70 , 19.00, or 19.80. (based upon real scores from those years) To get the caption points for each corps, average the corps placements over those three years, and then rank them top to bottom and assign them values like a live season. BD took 2nd in 04, 3rd in 06 and 1st in 07. Say they would be averaged #1 for those years, they would be worth 25 points. and then Cavies 24, Cadets 23, etc... down the line. So simply put... You would still choose one corps per caption (as in live seasons) , but their scores would be selected randomly from a three year period of scores (which would be predetermined) for each show. The three year period would be the same for all corps. At each show, the director would not know what year is being used for that show. It would even be possible that different years could be used for the same corps in different captions. This would allow the unpredictablity of a live season and allow the caption selections process to be similar from non to live seasons. Submitted by James Hensley, Crass P.S. It's late, if you need me to cxlear up my thoughts, i can... tomorrow morning :) It's a cool idea from simplicity of caption pick like the live season although would involve the number crunching by Jeff and team. What I don't like about it though is it limits the caption options and combinations. That is kind of a nice difference between the live and non-live seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostrauser Posted August 14, 2009 Share Posted August 14, 2009 Rule Change: Caption selections would be from multiple years on non live seasons and would be randomized to get your score for that caption. Rationale: By having multiple Caption selections for each caption, the unpredictability for each show would remain within a specific range, but would be +/- a certain number of points. This could be scripted in the database score program randomizer. This would allow corps' scores to have some umpredicatibiltity while giving the Director some sort of understanding of value of that pick. IMO, this would take more emphasis than you think off the hard work spent number crunching and toss a whole lot more of the results onto pure luck of the draw. For this reason alone I have to say I don't like the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedihunter80 Posted August 15, 2009 Share Posted August 15, 2009 Proposal: "Legendary Staff" Submitted by: Kadence Rationale: Pending feasibility study by DCPI administration- add an option for acquiring a "legendary" staff member- ie a figure like Jim Ott, Steve Brubaker, George Zingali, Tom Float, etc, that can give a corps an additional point boost in a particular caption for a cost, providing directors with an additional means of competing and providing more options for people who might otherwise be "painted into a corner" with their caption set. Full explanation: Pending feasibility study by DCPI administration, directors would be able to choose ONE and ONLY ONE of their captions to "hire" a legendary staff member. Directors may hire or fire legendary staff members at any point in the season, or may move them from one caption to another. This WOULD count as one of the normal 3 caption changes (or 2 during finals week) in the course of a caption change submission. When the admins tally up the scores for that corps, the legendary staff bonus would take effect in the following ways: GE staff: Adds an extra 0.1 to the chosen GE caption score. Eg: Corps X has Cadets in GE Visual and also has a Legendary Staff Member for GE Visual. The Cadets score an 18.3 in GE Visual on that given night. The Legendary Staff bonus would raise that score to an 18.4 Non-GE staff. Adds an extra 0.25 to the chosen non-GE caption score, BEFORE the total score is weighted and tabulated. In other words it's a net gain of 0.125. Example: Corps Y has Blue Stars in Percussion and also has a Legendary Staff Member for Percussion. Blue Stars score a 15.6 in percussion on that given night (maybe Pipitone was judging ). The Legendary staff bonus raises the Percussion score to a 15.85, which would then be factored into the weight of the overall Music score. Cost: A corps director could hire a Legendary Staff member for a cost of 3 caption points. A corps director may still not exceed their maximum caption salary for their corps by adding a LSM. I second this one...sounds like an awesome idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OdeToArsenal47 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Rule Change: Bonus points for lower-tier corps for finals week Rationale: Putting all of the corps for each class into a simple ranking from top to bottom, in a similar fashion to what Hostrauser does, and giving people under the cutoff for semi-finals an extra two points before prelims/quarters, the people under the cutoff for finals but above the cut for semi-finals one extra point, and giving the top 12 no extra points. This would give us a lot of parity in finals week and would shoot excitement up quite a bit. Also gives some of the under-achieving corps a "last chance for romance", by giving them a little better of a caption in a category they might be low in or, heck, it might give them a chance to start from scratch for that last chance to try to get that extra couple of tenths! Submitted by: OdeToArsenal47 (The Cosmonauts, The Patriots, Human Wave Regiment) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTGFP951 Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Rule Change: Bonus points for lower-tier corps for finals weekRationale: Putting all of the corps for each class into a simple ranking from top to bottom, in a similar fashion to what Hostrauser does, and giving people under the cutoff for semi-finals an extra two points before prelims/quarters, the people under the cutoff for finals but above the cut for semi-finals one extra point, and giving the top 12 no extra points. This would give us a lot of parity in finals week and would shoot excitement up quite a bit. Also gives some of the under-achieving corps a "last chance for romance", by giving them a little better of a caption in a category they might be low in or, heck, it might give them a chance to start from scratch for that last chance to try to get that extra couple of tenths! Submitted by: OdeToArsenal47 (The Cosmonauts, The Patriots, Human Wave Regiment) I say NAY to this one. It makes the playing field uneven. Groups that are in the lower tier should not be given an unfair and unearned points advantage. The point of DCPI as with any fantasy league is to make the best possible selections. And those who make the best selections win the league/championship. This would be like giving the last place team in a fantasy football league an extra quarterback. Not to mention that things were EXTREMELY tight this year. Top 25 in world class this year were separated by 2 points. How much closer do we need it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hostrauser Posted August 16, 2009 Share Posted August 16, 2009 Rule Change: Bonus points for lower-tier corps for finals weekRationale: Putting all of the corps for each class into a simple ranking from top to bottom, in a similar fashion to what Hostrauser does, and giving people under the cutoff for semi-finals an extra two points before prelims/quarters, the people under the cutoff for finals but above the cut for semi-finals one extra point, and giving the top 12 no extra points. This would give us a lot of parity in finals week and would shoot excitement up quite a bit. Also gives some of the under-achieving corps a "last chance for romance", by giving them a little better of a caption in a category they might be low in or, heck, it might give them a chance to start from scratch for that last chance to try to get that extra couple of tenths! Submitted by: OdeToArsenal47 (The Cosmonauts, The Patriots, Human Wave Regiment) No, there are enough "lower tier" corps who figure it out and shoot up the rankings at the end of the season as it is. IMO, every season is "anybody's ballgame." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincinnatiGloryMello Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 Voting is now happening in the DCP-I Rules Congress Sub-forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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