Jeff Ream Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 No, that isn't the best solution. The best solution is to provide training to the judges, and write responsibility for judging the overall sound into the ensemble music sheets. That way corps that do it badly (and not all corps do) will be held accountable. Corps that do it well (and there are a few) will benefit.Electronics and amplification are not going away. Quite the contrary, you're going to see more of it as corps become more comfortable designing for it. so then we're down to two impossibilities...eliminating it and seeing it actually being held accountable on the judges sheets and i know you'll be pro DCI on this, but it's been there for 5 years, and we've still seen no serious handling of it by the judging community. hell in any circuit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamarag Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 and i know you'll be pro DCI on this, but it's been there for 5 years, and we've still seen no serious handling of it by the judging community. hell in any circuit On this we agree. It's one of the battles we fought last summer. Many judges gave us blank stares when we talked about sound mix and accountability. But in all honesty, it's a separate, though related, topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickhaltsforlife Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 The fact that amplification has to be mentioned in the sheets for judges to actually hold corps accountable is bull. Isn't balance already a part of the sheets? Amplification or not, they can judge the balance, how the hell can you ignore a blasting pit? I know it's more complicated, but there should be no problem judging balance wise. I would love a look at an example of the sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 On this we agree. It's one of the battles we fought last summer. Many judges gave us blank stares when we talked about sound mix and accountability. But in all honesty, it's a separate, though related, topic. it's very related. they passed a rule with no idea how to enforce it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff Ream Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 The fact that amplification has to be mentioned in the sheets for judges to actually hold corps accountable is bull. Isn't balance already a part of the sheets? Amplification or not, they can judge the balance, how the hell can you ignore a blasting pit? I know it's more complicated, but there should be no problem judging balance wise. I would love a look at an example of the sheets. the ensemble sheet has been posted before. but i have to laugh every time I think of Crown at Allentown with the pit cranked at 30 and they got a 19.2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvu80 Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) THE MOST SIGNIFICANT RULE CHANGE OF THE DECADE: Get the judges OFF the field of play. Let them patrol the sidelines, put them in the stands, or at the very least let them judge from OUTSIDE the "marching box", but judges on the field of today's modern drum corps is an anachronism. This is the 21st century. It's time for the judging technique to catch up with the marching activity. /meaningful suggestions +++ Please return to the usual meaningless and useless DCP posts which criticize DCI and trash amplification. Edited November 21, 2009 by wvu80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd_Star_Brigade Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 the ensemble sheet has been posted before. but i have to laugh every time I think of Crown at Allentown with the pit cranked at 30 and they got a 19.2 But Cadets' amps go to 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peel Paint Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) [Agreeing with Hrothgar: Repeal the rule allowing amplification] This one stone would kill so many birds. No more narration. No more static, clicks, pops and feedback. No more synthesizers. No more vibraphones that sound like a church bell tower. No more staff members controlling dynamics from the sidelines. Banning amps again would also lessen the chance of woodwinds being brought in to DCI. Amps do give woodwinds a foot in the door. I say we load all the amps into Lucas Oil Stadium, take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. Edited November 21, 2009 by Peel Paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peel Paint Posted November 21, 2009 Share Posted November 21, 2009 (edited) .sorry, dupe post Edited November 21, 2009 by Peel Paint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Posted November 21, 2009 Author Share Posted November 21, 2009 Banning amps again would also lessen the chance of woodwinds being brought in to DCI. Amps do give woodwinds a foot in the door for a seat at the table. /huh? I say we load all the amps into Lucas Oil Stadium, take off, and nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure. But then where would the Colts play????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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