corpsband Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Referring to Open Class corps (the non-AAA, AA, A corps) on slide 12:"They can add into a show and they can attend the champs but there is no real service offered" I hate to see something like that, assuming I'm reading it correctly. Seriously, who put this together? Did all seven corps approve of this language? Presumably Hop. The pdf was signed by "yea" so it was generated on one of their boxes. And the Hop *was* the presenter at the weekend meeting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I presume you are prepared to go up to Carolina Crown after one of their 2011 performances and call them Marching Band to their face..... No, but I will when the introduce WW into the competition. Tell me, what else will they be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcpacheco Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Poor attendance, high overhead, and a base of more corps than the organization can support, has put the organization’s continued existence in jeopardy How can corps complain about high overhead if they are the ones who supported growing from 128 members. They hurt themselves and now they complain!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorpsFan710 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I don't see why people are reacting so negatively over this. It seems like a good starting point to increase the strength of the activity as a whole. If you think DCI can continue to operate as it currently does - and survive - you're not being realistic. Sure, there are some things that will be debated/adjusted, but at least someone is putting real work into the future of the activity. I honestly don't see how anyone can be upset with the ENTIRE proposal. There are some great ideas in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plan9 Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 No, but I will when the introduce WW into the competition.Tell me, what else will they be? Oh, brother. They use pits with lots of odd instuments (including bass guitars, marimbas, et al) and they're still D&BC. The Yankees are using metal bats and their still Major League Baseball. This isn't the subject here, but it shows how much the blatant detractors on DCP are not the target audience for this innovation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoutnout Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 You know, I live in the Rockford area and if I asked 100 random people in WalMart or Logli if they knew anything about drum corps, I'm convinced that maybe five would, and four of those five would be over 55. (I acknowledge this is anectdotal, but I have talked to many people over the years and have a pretty good feeling for this)Phantom is virtually invisible (no pun intended) in this community. They really only do one big public event each year which is a concert at Sinnisippi Park. And...most of the people that come are 55 or older and have long time ties with the corps. What's my point? STOP ALREADY WITH THE FANCY MARKETING! Get the corps visible in their own communities. Go do standstills around town. Maybe even take the corps to do community service and alert the local TV station. I think the big problem over the last couple decades is that corps have become less and less connected to their communities. I realize this doesn't solve all the problems, but it's locals who donate and sponsor. I could go on for awhile about this, but that's the kernel of my proposal. Hey G7 fancy pants take that idea and make a slide! No offence Granny at all BUT what decade do you think it is? Maybe a town social, sock Hop, a parade with the local mayor and his beauty Queen Daughter. Come on. I would love nothing more for it to be a simple time again myself But lets get real. Its the SAVY group that will survive. Bake sales don't make it anymore ( Would be great if it did ) I think G& knows how dying the activity we desperately cling to and they are trying to do something about it. If that meant going back in time would work then so be it , but unfortunately we cant go back again in anything.HELL I want to pay 30 cents a gallon for gas to, but is that going to happen HELL NO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cache_Money Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I posted this in another thread. Since we now know that these G7 exclusive shows are a real possibility, I thought I'd repost it here, as it seems relevant:The idea behind these shows is both exciting and innovative. But I see no reason why they should be G7 exclusive. Include 4-6 corps in each show -- two or three G7 corps, the rest non-G7. Including an open class corps. [snip] My point is that it is possible to be innovative and move the activity forward without stomping on the throats of the "non-elite" corps. Based on reviewing the entire propsal in detail, I think the answer is: Because the "non-elite" corps don't fit into the model proposed by the G7. In their model, the G7 events are to be marketed and delivered as "Super Awesome Summer Band," basically HS band performed at higher level. In their view, why would HS students want to come to show if the corps/bands were barely as good (or even worse than) an average HS marching band? The G7 philosophy appears to be that HS bands now fill the role formerly performed by smaller, regional, "feeder" drum corps. In this model, DCI should be viewed as an extension of (or a higher level of) HS marching band. I got the sense that the G7 view the non-elite (especially the low World Class and Open Class corps) as...I am honestly trying to think of a different word than "embarrassing," because I'm not sure that's fair...but I think they view those corps as diluting the DCI product and brand. They think that if HS kids show up to see "Super Bands" and their first impression is one the lower corps, they will have a less positive view of DCI overall. There is some truth in all this, but I can't say I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I presume you are prepared to go up to Carolina Crown after one of their 2011 performances and call them Marching Band to their face..... I've heard members of Crown refer to themselves as a band, or the corps as "the band" before. So they probably wouldn't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garfield Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 Oh, brother. They use pits with lots of odd instuments (including bass guitars, marimbas, et al) and they're still D&BC. The Yankees are using metal bats and their still Major League Baseball. This isn't the subject here, but it shows how much the blatant detractors on DCP are not the target audience for this innovation. Let's see, a marimba is a mallet instrument. Corps have had mallet instruments from the beginning. What they've not had is woodwinds. Hence, the unique sound of DC. Bass guitars was one of those ideas that was to help save the activity. Yeah, that worked out really well. Jeesh. Oh brother is right. Glenn Beck's book comes in real handy here. If they exclude woodwinds (not a chance) I will be in line to give the new structure my support. Woodwinds are part of the proposal. And you're right, the detractors of woodwinds are not the target audience of this new "innovation". Glad we got that straight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corpsband Posted May 25, 2010 Share Posted May 25, 2010 I've heard members of Crown refer to themselves as a band, or the corps as "the band" before. So they probably wouldn't care. This Is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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