victorcoly Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 I said it in another thread but I will again the perfect score does not mean perfect..... That portion of your response alone verifies that no one should be getting a 20.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Room_101 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 /shrug, maybe, in the judges' opinions, they were.Hence... If they WERE 0.3 better, BD is therefore getting penalized 0.1 in CG because of a judge's error...you can't just shrug that off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hstrmptguy09 Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Scores are all relative... Duh. So if Corps 1 has an awesome colorguard, but has a few mistakes, give them a score that reflects that. Giving them a perfect score doesn't make sense at all if they are not perfect, no matter what the corps before them scored. If scores for some corps at finals aren't that high, it will make sense because it will all be relative to the other corps performances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUARDLING Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 That portion of your response alone verifies that no one should be getting a 20.0 PROBABLY NOT,,,,,as i said you can only work with so many #s..who is perfect.....noone...no caption Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idontwan2know Posted August 14, 2010 Share Posted August 14, 2010 Simply accept that the max score in a caption does not equal a perfect performance and all your troubles will be behind you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorcoly Posted August 14, 2010 Author Share Posted August 14, 2010 Simply accept that the max score in a caption does not equal a perfect performance and all your troubles will be behind you. Ooookkkk then.... If we "accept" it -- are we saying it's perfect?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagicBobert Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 (edited) The dictionary definition really isn't appropriate. "Perfect" in the drum corps sense inherently means "perfect where the judges were looking". You cannot watch everyone on the field at the same time, and even if you saw something it doesn't mean the judge did. Also, spreads. You can complain all you want about numbers management, but at the end of the day if the 2nd place group gets a 19.8 and the top group is 0.2 better, the judge has no choice but to give them a 20.0. It would actually be more dishonest (IMHO) to give them a 19.9 because they are spooked by some dictionary definition of the word perfect than to attempt to be as objective as possible with their numbers and give them the full spread they deserve. Edited August 15, 2010 by MagicBobert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeybabay Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 It has been said before and I will continue to say it. Coming from a judges background. No where on a sheet does it ever reference PERFECT. That is a terminology that fans and members have interpreted as semantics for years. It may have meant that back in the old "tic" days if someone would have ever managed to maintain a lack of errors. The way judging sheets are blocked and criteria are weighed, means that the top end of scores are Block 5 and pushing the limits of the activity as we know it. Obviously both in terms of design and performance. So this would mean that BDs guard was accomplishing things that have not been accomplished up until this point, this season. We see it happen in gymnastics and figure skating all the time and for some reason don't seem to question that - even though we know in another year, what was done then will be topped tomorrow or next year. As noted on here earlier with spreads. Judges are encouraged not to tie - someone should be noted better or not as good as the next to rank. Even in this case - take the two .1s off BD and they still are going to come out on top. Just saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorcoly Posted August 15, 2010 Author Share Posted August 15, 2010 It has been said before and I will continue to say it. Coming from a judges background. No where on a sheet does it ever reference PERFECT. That is a terminology that fans and members have interpreted as semantics for years. It may have meant that back in the old "tic" days if someone would have ever managed to maintain a lack of errors.The way judging sheets are blocked and criteria are weighed, means that the top end of scores are Block 5 and pushing the limits of the activity as we know it. Obviously both in terms of design and performance. So this would mean that BDs guard was accomplishing things that have not been accomplished up until this point, this season. We see it happen in gymnastics and figure skating all the time and for some reason don't seem to question that - even though we know in another year, what was done then will be topped tomorrow or next year. As noted on here earlier with spreads. Judges are encouraged not to tie - someone should be noted better or not as good as the next to rank. Even in this case - take the two .1s off BD and they still are going to come out on top. Just saying. Joey -- great perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flammaster Posted August 15, 2010 Share Posted August 15, 2010 I remember a couple decades ago when a judge gave this one corps a perfect drum score and those guys didn't play jack and another corps was playing some of the hardest stuff imaginable and not only that they swept I&E. Ring any bells? No one should get a perfect score especially if there are still others yet to perform. It is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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