randomnoise Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 It's true, I got my Claude Gordon 3S mouthpiece from a former BD Sop player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaringbrass Posted May 31, 2002 Share Posted May 31, 2002 Oh that explains it. Anyway You use a sop mouthpiece for mello? I see no problem in that as long as you have good tone quality, which im sure you do. All it comes down to is I want a CG3s, im jellous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayM Posted June 2, 2002 Share Posted June 2, 2002 King Mello 6. I've never played on anything different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Ellis Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 Kanstul M6 (with a Kanstul 3 valve horn, of course). Matched to the horn - comfortable for long periods - better tone quality than anything else I have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randomnoise Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 You use a sop mouthpiece for mello? I see no problem in that as long as you have good tone quality, which im sure you do. All it comes down to is I want a CG3s, im jealous... I do use a trumpet mouthpiece. My tone is ok, could be better. But folks seem generally pleased with the results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScribeToo Posted June 3, 2002 Share Posted June 3, 2002 But folks seem generally pleased with the results. ::raises hand:: ::legs still wobbling from last year:: I was satisfied! ^0^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaringbrass Posted June 4, 2002 Share Posted June 4, 2002 Yeah figuring he's in the Renegades, mine too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldManAlto Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 ::legs still wobbling from last year::I was satisfied! ^0^ I thought that was because you felt my presence even though you didn't know me?? :D We used the Kanstul M6 last summer with Spirit...We actually started using them kinda late and I had a hard time adjusting to it...It did start to work for me though near the end. I would much rather have a Benge M6 though. I'm currently playing on a Schilke 18 with the 'Vets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuZiK11 Posted June 7, 2002 Share Posted June 7, 2002 i currently use a schilke 14a4a, but am testing a kanstul m6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trptjock Posted August 29, 2002 Share Posted August 29, 2002 In my opinion there is no real mellophone mouthpiece that gets the desired sound out of a mellophone. The UMI (King, Conn, Benge, Kanstul) Mello 6 or 6V are essentially the same mouthpiece. The only difference is that the 6V has a deeper V cup than the straight 6. Yes they do give a good tone, but get brilliant in the upper register and the lower register does not speak as easily as some other mouthpieces I have played. I have spoken with some of the staff from Regiment from this past year and the mello line is using Bach 1 1/2 B (cornet) mouthpieces with a cornet to trumpet mouthpiece adapter. It really does get a larger, darker sound. I am currently testing many mouthpieces with the Kanstul mello I own (for testing purposes) and have tried the following: UMI Mello 6v Bach 2 (cornet) with adapter Bach 1 1/2 C (cornet) with adapter Bach 2 C (trumpet) Bach 1 1/2 C (trumpet) Bach 1 1/2 B (trumpet) CG3 Denis Wick 2 (cornet) with adapter Schilke 18, 20 (trumpet) Marcinkewicz Model 300, 1S, 1.5S (cornet) I have found that the Bach 2 (cornet) and the Wick 2 (cornet) both get a very rich and dark quality to the sound. Actually keeps the upper register in check intonation wise. The both have a nice free-blowing lower register. The Bach has a bowl shaped cup which will get a sound with more edge in the louder dynamics, while the Wick is a very deep V cup that keeps the sound focused and dark at all dynamics. The deep V on the Wick does make the horn play flat at the louder dynamics though. In essence, the mellophone is a strange instrument that really doesn't lend itself to a conventional mouthpiece without altering the characteristics of the instrument. Should a mellophone be a warm sounding instrument to not be played in the upper register, or should it be used in all registers to create a different quality throughout the arrangements of the particular hornbook. My opinion (and that is all it is), is to keep the mello as a middle voice that has a large rich, dark quality sound and to use a mouthpiece that gets that sound with the least amount of compromises in intonation and comfort. I am currently the Brass Caption head for the Blue Stars from LaCrosse Wisconsin and only offer my opinion. I am also the professor of trumpet at the University of Minnesota-Duluth. I have tried the conventional mellophone mouthpieces and they just don't get the sound needed for the type of music our hornline is looking for. But what the h### do I know. What are your thoughts. Also, in my opinion, the Kanstul horns are far superior than the Dynasty horns due to the quality of the metal, craftsmanship and sound quality they produce. The drawbacks to Kanstuls is their inconsistency. Dynasty are a more consistent instrument from horn to horn. But you can have two Kanstul mellos with sequential serial numbers and they play completely different. Perhaps, it was a fluke during manufacturing. food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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