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Argh...all ensemble sound is just too trumpet heavy now with Bb


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The homogenized drum corps "sound" that G bugles produced is no longer there.

If all the horns are in Bb, it's just as homogenized as if they are all in G. But, naturally, if G horns are not there, the sound of G horns won't be there either.

there's no magic that makes a certain key louder.

Not magic, but physics.

All other factors being equal, the larger horn is louder. That's an undeniable law of physics, illustrated most obviously by the number of trumpets it takes to balance a tuba. A G horn is slightly larger than an identical horn in Bb. It's doubtful that anyone would hear a volume difference between individual horns, but when multiplied by 60-70 it's obvious.

The difference I find most disappointing about Bb horns is that the sound seems to sit on the field rather than driving up into the stands. Noticed a post in another thread about a guy getting his face blown off standing 10 feet in front of a corps and going nuts while the rest of the audience golf clapped politely, unmoved. The sound is very powerful up close, but at 40 yards it doesn't project. Traditionally, a Bb concert horn is not supposed to project. It's designed to sit in a balance with string instruments, flutes and clarinets in a chamber. Different keys are good for different things and composers have known this for centuries.

The Bb sound has definitely gotten stronger the last two years and I hope they can improve in the future. But, it will never match the sound of a larger horn. It's not physically possible.

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Along the same lines, the difference between a Bb tuba and an identical G tuba is greater than the difference between a Bb trumpet and it's G counterpart. The size of instruments in relation to pitch is exponential. This is hard to see when a horn is all curled up, but it's obvious on marimba resonators or organ pipes. The difference between a G5 and a Bb5 might be a fraction of an inch, but the difference between GG and BBb is several inches. So, Bb trumpets are more similar to G sopranos than Bb euphs are to G euphs, contributing to the feeling that the low brass doesn't balance the trumpets as well in Bb compared to G with the same instrumentation. The lower you go, the more the apparent the difference of key.

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From recordings I've seen and heard, SCV has a tremendous low brass section this year, they definitely make their presence known. When I think SCV this year, I wouldn't think top-heavy at all.

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