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Oh believe me they do... The most memoralbe was "this one is for you sweetcheeks"..said to the Crown Tuba section leader, who BTW is a female. Their were other comments and of course the occasional elbow. It was enough that the Crown kids were ###### about it. To thier merit, they did not react in a poor manner. In the end, BAC's DM ended up apologizing to Crown's DM, and Howard W. and company took action that stopped it. PS..Let me make it clear that I have no problem with the BAC organization. This was a case of a few members acting poorly, and embarrising their corps. The corps managment at Boston, IMHO, took appropriate steps to end it. Sadly, sometimes the actions of a few overly "gung ho" members can serve to embarras an entire organization.

I know Crown had several run ins with BAC this past summer. Their was some squaking by BAC in the mixed AOC arcs..bad enough that Howard W. had to nip it in the bud.. I always told the Crown kids when they (BAC) started talking junk to look at them intently and just say "recap".. ^0^

I dunno..as a person in the bus industry and a corps insider I can offer: An MCI-9 or 102A3 seats 47 passengers. Most corps travel with 4 buses, giving them a total of 188 seats. Still room for 38 people outside the 150. All well and good BUTTTT.. Today, though, more and more corps are going to chartering newer buses. In todays market, the 55-57 passenger buses are all that are available for a tour as extensive as a typical corps tour. Since about 1998, no manufaturer has offered a 40 foot (47-49 passenger) bus. The older smaller busses of the past are just that...old. The last MC-9 rolled off the assembly line in 1984. 102a3s finished their production run in 1992. Basically, the equipment that many corps owned is no longer manufactured, and thus it is getting harder and harder to get parts. (for example, Detroit Diesel no longer supports the engines typically found in these buses) To boot, as buses age they become more and more expensive to keep road worthy. For a finacially challanged drum corps, this can be a real problem. This can lead to old broken down, and unsafe busses and unhappy members. That is why the Cadets, Blue stars, Crown, Bluecoats, Devs, Phantom, etc are travelling on charterted busses. The move to newer and chartered buses is inevitable. In the end, it is better for the corps, as they are travelling on newer and safer equipment. If their is a mechnanical problem, it is the bus companies problem, not the corps. IMHO, this is better.

I can tell you as a member of the 1989 and 1990 Spirit of Atlanta, name will get you nowhere...

The highest scoring 12 corps at semifinals. That is who should be in, regardless of nostalgia, the past or anything. If the corps not in the top 12 get better then the current ones, they will be in. VERY simple. b**bs

But...but Crown does easy shows..they don't do hard stuff..no way!!! OMG!!! :sshh: :sshh:

I wonder why the mods havent closed this. You link to youtube and its an instant shutdown.

No corps stayed in Compton. Spirit stayed in Hawthorne, CA. Near, but not in Compton. If you have ever been to Metro LA, you would know that it is a sprawl of suburbs. In this sprawl, you can have a upscale community right next to a not so upscale one. Housing for Nats is an issue. Even in the 2nd largest metro area in the US, finding housing for everyone is a major undertaking. You must also keep in mind that many of the middle class kids in Drum Corps do not really understand what a Inner-City Ghetto really is. A good example could be my own experience with my own corps this summer: We stayed at Arroyo HS in EL Monte. By all accounts El Monte is a diverse, working class LA suburb. It is not primarily caucasian (it is mostly asian and hispanic), it has a variance of small homes and busineses, and is tucked in right next to Arcadia (wich is more affluent, as far as I could tell.) Many of the kids were saying "we are in the Ghetto" I could only shake my head. Most of the kids in the corps, being grom the southeast, and middle class, had never been in an area like LA. I had to explain to them: Helos patrolling the skys are routine. Because of the nature of the LA suburbs, and the sprawl, it is necessary to use choppers quite a bit in everyday Law Enforcement. Choppers are also used to monitor the traffic on the mass of freeways in the metro LA region. A fence around a school is routine in LA County. Every school in the area was the same. A majority of the people in the LA region are not caucasian..this does not meant that they are criminals or thugs. Not all of Los Angeles is Boys in the Hood.. You want a Ghetto..go to USC and walk a few blocks from the campus.. Sadly, it was ignorance and falling for sterotypes. I'm sure that there was some culture shock this summer in many corps.

My guess is that getting a bus from O'Hare will be alot easier. Van Galder runs regular service from Ohare to Northern Ill/Wisconson (the I-90 corridor) More than likely, most will fly into O'hare. Unless your are flying Southwest, most flight to Chicago come into good old ORD..

Yup..if i remember right, alot of those trumpet players were female members of "Team Japan" As I recall, those dominutive Japanese ladies had alot of difficulty runnig around with those #### fences!

Nothing like the corps of today eat. In 1982, the only corps with a chuckwagon was SCV (Ms Amana was brand new that year) Today's corps eat on a whole different level. Most corps in the 80's would divide the summer into two tours. It was rare that any corps went out for an 8 week tour, which is routine today. About as far as today, but on buses that would make today's kids cringe. SCV had relativly new buses in 82 (they bought them brand new from Eagle in '79), but just about everyone else travelled on rusted out death traps. The buses of 27, Spirit, and the Bridgemen were the stuff of legend! I cant answer this honestly, but I would wager that in today's litigous world, this is much more of an issue! True. The stories alot of folks told me about the 70's and 80's made me wonder how nobody died, and how corps were able to operate. In all honesty, some of the things that were routine in that era are unfathomable today. Many corps then were run by good, well meaning people, but operated at barely above a fly-by-night level. The simple fact of the matter today is that you must have good instructors, safe equipment, plenty of insurance, and a good overall organization if you want to be sucessful..or even survive. The corps that have gone under recently (magic, KK, Cap reg, esperanza, etc) had major organizational issues and are not around today

Uhh..DCI was open CLASS, CLASS A, CLASS A-60 until 1991. So what is so bad about going back to the past. After all, some people here obsess about it :sshh:

Two words. Resale Value.. Generally, though, the b flat horns make logistics easier for the members and corps..(ie, early season rehearsals where you have more kids then horns; the kids can use their own instruments; the any key horns require less adjustment musically also.) I will miss the g's. But, time marches on.

The narration held off until they were able to make it work, and the show was adjusted to its final product. The staff wanted to do it right. Based on the narraration attempts I have seen, they did a great job. It was effective, not over bearing, and was well scripted and well spoken.

As someone who was with Crown the whole season, I must admit I thought that we would beat SCV before the Coats. Semis was the first time all season we had beaten the Coats..(and we didn't exactly shellac them either!) Coats were a tasty corps with a great show, as was CC. I personally thought we would both be above SCV. But, when 4th to 7th place is decided by mere tenths, anything can happen.

True..I would argue that his weapon books are a little too ambitious for outside (where the elements play a role..) MS's guards had spectacular work, but were not as clean as other guards as a result.

In Crown, Caption supervisor is synonomous with caption head.

Christ..had to light that fuse, didnt'cha... :sshh:

I have my ideas.. :sshh: Lets just say that MS can be...demanding..i'll leave it at that.

Hop has always had a say in the show design and programming. Last I checked shows programmed by have won 9 world championships, have been finalists every year he has been director, and have finished in the top five every year but one. I think he is more than qualified to meddle in the creative process.

I bet that getting to Hutch when you were marching was a PITA also. We did a tour stop there. It was nice, but the closest airport of any size was witchita, and that is not a huge airport. I must say though, Hutch and Buhler, KS were nice little slices of americana!

Both corps could serve as models in the activity insofar as thier organizations. Both corps travel and eat well. Both treat their members well. Both have top notch staffs and administration. One is an established champion, and the other is an up-and coming powerhouse. I doubt that you would regret going to either.

Nope..Bloomington. Remember, he is not the caption head, only an advisor. The actual BCH at Blue Stars (Matt Tye) lives in Wisconson, ironically..

I can agree. That 2003 hornline was weak to be sure, and was tacit quite a bit..by design. However..I woulnt call it cringe inducing. To say that, IMO, is simply insulting.

I am simply using his own words against him. I understand that Mempho was first year corps. My point is that he was in no position to make such a statement....then and now. <**> If that bothers Jared..I am sorry. Those in glass houses... We should all watch our words, myself included. Perhaps my use of MS was inappropriate. I apologize if My words casued hurt.