jasgre2000

Well, if they aren't doing it to protect DVD sales ... and they have no liability based reason for doing it, what is the explanation? Either they are paranoid about canibalizing DVD sales or they are paranoid about a legal risk that doesn't exist. Either way, the take down notices don't really make any sense.

You were wrong about me not doing any research or analysis or having any real information.

I find it hard to believe as well, which is why I think it is crazy that they would be issuing tons of takedown notices.

The reason is because DCI believes they are hurting DVD sale and fan network subscriptions. DCI/Corps do own their own rights for the performances shown in the youtube videos. There is no question that the youtube videos are in violation of copyright. DCI could sue the fans if they wanted to. I, and others, are just of the opinion that it is a bad business decision to take that kind of action.

DCI has no obligation to issue take down notices, except to protect its own rights. The only reason it would need to protect its own rights is because it believes it is making less money because of youtube videos. I suppose that the underlying rights holder could be issuing the notices, but why would they target DCI videos and ignore every other violation (which usually get more views anyways)?

You're wrong. I have done research and analysis on this issue. I am a lawyer myself and have dealt with multiple copyright cases. I will happy admit I am wrong if you give me one real life example of an organization being held liable for the infringing activity of a third party. You seem to be confusing issues here. There is no dispute that DCI/corps need to secure licenses to play music, record it, and display it on the internet. That is a completely different issue from a fan posting a youtube video without permission.

Please show me one example of an organization being found liable for a third party's copyright infringement.

If the corps or DCI are not recording the music and posting it on youtube, then they are not liable. I am not aware of any case law saying that an organization is liable for copyright violations because a third party recorded their performance and displayed it publicly. The only reason for DCI or the corps to issue take down notices would be to protect their own rights, which would be DVD sales.

That doesn't have anything to do with the youtube issue. Obviously DCI and the corps need to have the appropriate licenses.

Totally agree. It needs to be a rule that corps have all the necessary rights before the season starts. Its ridiculous that there are portions of last year's shows that aren't available on the fan network. If you want people to continue paying money for this stuff, the product needs to be better than what it is.

That's a policy designed to protect youtube, not you. As long as they comply with a take down notice, they can't be sued. If you challenge the take down notice, they can put it back up and the copyright holder would have to sue you to take it down. That doesn't mean you can't be sued to take it down in the first place though. Its not likely, but you can be sued from the moment you put the video up.

Do you have anything to back that up? I can see no legal grounds for suing an organization because one if their supporters posted a youtube video. If a lawsuit like that was filed, I'm sure it would get some press. With all due respect, this sounds like an urban myth to me.

A-freakin-men!

There is no way DCI would be held liable for a fan putting up a youtube video. This is about DCI's wrongheaded idea that somehow these videos are taking away from fan network and DVD sales.

Don't know if this qualifies, since it was more of an entire package thing than just the music, but the only drum corps show that has moved me to tears was last year's Bluecoats Masquerade show. I have cried on multiple occasions watching that. Cut way too close to home.

Definitely agree. Not nearly as dirty as last weekend.

Could not disagree more. There is only one show I've seen that I don't like (I won't mention it, because many people here love it and I don't want to argue about it). I can't remember a season where I've been as excited about so many shows as I am this year.

Also, the way the sticks The Cadets' guard are using reflect reminded me of the props Star used in their show. There does seem to be some callbacks in the show. Perhaps ironically, it was The Cadets that beat Star in 1993.

Are you kidding me? California fans have good reason to complain. Fans in the west get the shaft when it comes to DCI. Not only do they miss out on getting a chance to see a majority of the corps live every season, but the shows they do see are early in the season when corps are still working on getting everything on the field. Surely you aren't suggesting California fans have no reason to complain, are you? The way DCI treats the western U.S. is idiotic. There are tons of fans in California (the most populous state in the nation) and could be a whole lot more if DCI would make even the slightest effort to give them something to root for.

This year is the 20th anniversary of Star's legendary 1993 show. Is it a coincidence that The Cadets are playing Medea ... or is it a tribute? I think The Cadets show is amazing. I sort of wish they would have neded on that big loud unresolved chord though.

Finally watched Phantom on the Fan Network. What an awesome show. One of my favorites so far this year (and I like just about everything I've seen). Its unfortunate that I won't get to see them live this year. That Nimrod piece has got to be amazing live. A recording can't do that justice.

Love, love, love this years Cavies show ... it is super sloppy though. Hope they can bring things together. It is painful to watch them struggle. While I never marched in DCI, the Cavies have always been my favorite corps.

What does paying have to do with it? You pay to watch the show ... not to have the right to boo without being called out for being rude. Booing is rude and a lame way to express an opinion, regardless of how much you pay.

It's a distinction without a difference. You are booing the judges for putting BD in first place and Crown in second. That is clearly a comment on BD. You can't "boo the judges" without also booing BD. it doesn't work that way.

I completely agree ... especially in this case. The voice over in the source material is from and old wise man. Hearing a younger person recite those lines causes some of the significance to be lost, in my opinion.